cross-posted from: https://hexbear.net/post/830212

The absolutely beautiful reason that I can tell that they still aren’t agreeing to Fords concessions is because they in solidarity with new workers that don’t even exist yet, are demanding that Fords new battery plants they are building be placed under the same labor agreement they are fighting for.

“The UAW, according to Ford officials, has taken a hard line on requiring the company’s four new battery plants be placed under the terms of the labor agreement.”

  • AliasAKA@lemmy.world
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    If Ford fires workers, that’s a no from me on purchasing any vehicles from them in the future.

    I’d rather pay a 2 thousand dollar premium on a new vehicle that’s union made than pay 2 thousand dollars less for a shoddy piece of crap made by inexperienced and overworked / underpaid workers.

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      I’d rather walk than ever buy another American vehicle anyhow, they’re fucking trash. Japanese for the rest of my life, no looking back at years wasted on American garbage.

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        Ever since GM killed SAAB, I get Subaru. Admittedly, I currently own a Bolt, but the second Subaru makes an electric Impreza, I’m getting one.

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        I’ve had a couple of both country’s vehicles over the years. Honestly, they’ve all been pretty good. I can certainly see myself boycotting American vehicles for the rest of my life depending on how this shakes out.

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        Hate to break it to you but Japanese work culture and abuse is significantly worse than the US.

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          I can’t imagine how that has anything to do with what I’m saying. I need dependable reliable transportation, that doesn’t seem to be something American vehicle makers can make happen, but the Japanese seem more than happy to take up the slack. I hope everyone gets better workplace environments, but that’s unrelated.

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      Seems logical, I wonder what percentage of people share that opinion. For instance I would in general trust a package with UPS more than Fed Ex.

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        Exactly, I strongly prefer UPS as a delivery service (I can’t tell you the last time I intentionally used fedex). I actually trust USPS more than fedex, frankly.

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          FedEx has messed up deliveries the last several times I’ve used them. Either things are broken, or they sneak up to the door and leave a notice that they missed you without ever ringing the bell and then run off. That last one is really weird. They’re already there, what’s the point of this? I’ve seen them on camera walk up, put the sticker on the door, and leave. No package in hand, no knock, and no doorbell ring. Why!

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            Maybe its faster for them. Like they don’t want to wait for someone to get their pants and finally get to the door, or they assume no one is home and just want to get on with the next delivery. At the same time the fedex system shows that they made the visit to your home and that is good enough for their boss. I really don’t know but that’s my theory, perhaps a fedexer will enlighten us.

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          Wait… FedEx or FedEx Ground? Maybe it’s because I’m in Canada but I’ve never had a good experience with UPS or any of its drivers. While FedEx has been nothing but amazing.

          FedEx Ground however is a steaming pile of shit

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      EV’s require fewer assembly steps. The unions want to transition losses on the assembly lines to new jobs at battery manufacturing ops the ev builders will make. EV builders don’t want to have union shops at every level.

      They’d rather dump the unnecessary people and hire non-union workers instead.

      Follow the money.

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      While I support your sentiment, non-union does not necessarily equal poorly made. It just means those products are more cheaply made by undercutting wages and benefits everywhere. Supporting union work is a monetary rising tide that lifts all boats, from the local economy, better health, to generational income that supports a better future for the families who get it.