And the Whales go extinct. The Star Trek timeline isn’t as bright and cheery as most people believe. The franchise has always been collapse-aware, its just not front and center. Gene Roddenberry just envisioned that post capitalist collapse (And with the discovery of intelligent alien life) that humanity would be able to rebuild better from the ashes.
And only embraced space communism when they invented (got access to? I’m not a Trekkie) a device that can literally make anything from anything, resulting in a post scarcity society and no need for work.
And time travelers who fought off time traveling space cyborgs to protect them.
This is incorrect. Luxury Gay Space Communism came first. It was embraced widely after the discovery of intelligent alien life united Humanity. The Replicator only became wide-spread in the time between The Original Series and The Next Generation. Even then there were other cultures with access to replicators that weren’t “Communist” such as the Ferengi and Cardassians. Equality has to be valued for a society to be truly post-scarcity.
Man straight up said “robots would make the best leaders because they can be made to be honest, rational, and selfless,” and people just remember the stories about the malfunctions.
The biggest problem would be making sure that the robots are acting in our best interests in a sustainable way and that no bad actors or loopholes make their way in. Though that’s the topic of decades of speculation so I’m hardly bringing anything new up, yeah. And as you’ve said, I robot covered a lot of these things way back in the earlier sci-fi days.
Joining an already-existing galactic civilization also results in a post-scarcity world, especially after the depopulation of the planet, but yes I already confessed I am not a Trekkie.
Regardless, communism, like Star Trek, is a fun fancy that won’t ever happen.
Just to be clear star trek also had a nuclear war
And the Whales go extinct. The Star Trek timeline isn’t as bright and cheery as most people believe. The franchise has always been collapse-aware, its just not front and center. Gene Roddenberry just envisioned that post capitalist collapse (And with the discovery of intelligent alien life) that humanity would be able to rebuild better from the ashes.
We only know that humpback whales go extinct. The rest of the whales could be doing fine in the 23rd century.
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And only embraced space communism when they invented (got access to? I’m not a Trekkie) a device that can literally make anything from anything, resulting in a post scarcity society and no need for work.
And time travelers who fought off time traveling space cyborgs to protect them.
This is incorrect. Luxury Gay Space Communism came first. It was embraced widely after the discovery of intelligent alien life united Humanity. The Replicator only became wide-spread in the time between The Original Series and The Next Generation. Even then there were other cultures with access to replicators that weren’t “Communist” such as the Ferengi and Cardassians. Equality has to be valued for a society to be truly post-scarcity.
Which is why I’d like fully automated luxury gay space communism. We can’t be trusted to govern ourselves, take me to The Culture now please.
I, Robot did it first.
Man straight up said “robots would make the best leaders because they can be made to be honest, rational, and selfless,” and people just remember the stories about the malfunctions.
The biggest problem would be making sure that the robots are acting in our best interests in a sustainable way and that no bad actors or loopholes make their way in. Though that’s the topic of decades of speculation so I’m hardly bringing anything new up, yeah. And as you’ve said, I robot covered a lot of these things way back in the earlier sci-fi days.
Joining an already-existing galactic civilization also results in a post-scarcity world, especially after the depopulation of the planet, but yes I already confessed I am not a Trekkie.
Regardless, communism, like Star Trek, is a fun fancy that won’t ever happen.
People always forget that Star Trek is post-apocalyptic in addition to being utopian.