I wonder what reason fanboys of moz will come up with to justify this idiotic design.

so many people complain and create their own solutions (https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1418752)

but the fanboys tell me the users are just stupid and yet fail to explain how “close application” and “get mails” should be in one row. is this good for a known workflow?

please fanboys enlighten me how this is not yet another of many many terrible decisions by the digital terrorists behind moz? (killing weave, ugly logos, locking down on customization, having amazon default in adressbar search and so on…)

is there one sane argument to do it? and do we have to fear firefox to lose more users soonish with the same designfail for the browser?

https://www.w3counter.com/globalstats.php

2.8% firefox …so 2% in 2024?

  • @NotSteve_@lemmy.ca
    12•9 months ago

    Are you talking about the unified titlebar? That’s a design trend that’s being used in every operating system including Windows, Mac OS and most Linux desktop environments.

    • ᕙ(⇀‸↼‶)ᕗOP
      3•9 months ago

      So you are saying moz is foss and yet they just follow the trends from those who obstruct an open internet?

      • MKCEnglish
        2•9 months ago

        Also, yes. They’ve been doing this for over a decade now.

          • @narwhalperson
            1•9 months ago

            I disagree. FOSS will never survive without the ability to connect with new users, and an unfamiliar UI would act as one of the biggest barriers to those who are coming from other software. If you don’t like it, use something else. I personally like Geary, but there are other FOSS mail clients too. Additionally, Mozilla’s contributions to the browser market have been admirable, regardless of their Google funding, as they are the last browser that isn’t entirely a marionette dancing on Google’s strings.

            • ᕙ(⇀‸↼‶)ᕗOP
              1•9 months ago

              Hm. So the old UI is unfamiliar…if you say so.

              I think the worst is to take an option away and then say go away if you dont like it.

              That is how you get a 3% marketshare.

              • @narwhalpersonEnglish
                1•9 months ago

                I’m not referring to this UI specifically. I was simply refuting your point of matching mainstream UI trends being always bad. Also, I don’t like removing options either, but it takes effort to maintain things, and ultimately the UI is at the developer’s discretion.

        • ᕙ(⇀‸↼‶)ᕗOP
          1•9 months ago

          from this thread you can see that NOBODY had any valid argument to make the file menue second row.

          nobody can explain why there need to be two buttons to compose a new mail.

          all i take from this is to stop using moz products.

          nobody can explain or wants to explain those decisions, the community is not reflecting anything and the usercount is falling and falling and falling.

          so let them fap on javascript performance until they are alone.

  • Programmer BelchEnglish
    5•9 months ago

    Sorry for my ignorance but can’t you change logos and position of bars with css files or extensions? I agree I would prefer if it used gtk or qt themes but I don’t see this as that big of a problem

    • ᕙ(⇀‸↼‶)ᕗOP
      2•9 months ago

      good for you. bad for anyone who has a different opinion.

      if you use the css fix i posted it is still ugly af as the menus drop down the entire design.

      and you do not see a problem giving “compose mail” and “close app” the same row? like you see no difference in the severity?

      • MKCEnglish
        3•9 months ago

        There is a CSS tweak by the person behind Classic Theme Restorer that can swap those two back around.

  • @eksb@programming.devEnglish
    4•9 months ago

    I want to hear somebody come up with a justification for moving the “Save” button in the download dialog to the top right, instead of the bottom, where everybody expects is after thousands of years of top->bottom left->right reading. Now the flow is top->bottom, left->right, where is the save button? Oh yeah, somebody moved it way up there.

    • ᕙ(⇀‸↼‶)ᕗOP
      3•9 months ago

      or why do i need two buttons to compose a new email? the blue “New Message” or the grey “+write”…i assume there is absolutely no effin difference in the buttons but some senior bs talker at moz got his way.

      they will achive 0% marketshare within 5 years.

  • southsamurai
    0•9 months ago

    You do know that the way you wrote this is not going to get any constructive discussion, right?

    • ᕙ(⇀‸↼‶)ᕗOP
      1•9 months ago

      Yes

      I tried other ways prior …like i kindly ask for weave substitute or accept 22yrs for a bug to be fixed…and did that change anything? No