I’ve noticed that sometimes when a particular VM/ service is having issues, they all seem to hang. For example, I have a VM hosting my DNS (pihole) and another hosting my media server (jellyfin). If Jellyfin crashes for some reason, my internet in the entire house also goes down because it seems DNS is unable to be reached for a minute or so while the Jellyfin VM recovers.
Is this expected, and is there a way to prevent it?
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Why are you running full VMs for something that can be put in a container? Sounds to me (without having any evidence or proof) that you’re running out of memory and you’re swapping and it’s taking forever. That’s what causes the VMs to slow/stop.
I typically prefer VM’s just because I can change the kernel as I please (containers such as LXC will use the host kernel). I know it’s overkill, but I have the storage/ memory to spare. Typically I’m at about 80% (memory) utilization under full load.
I’d check high I/O wait, specially if your all of the vms are on HDDs.
one of the solution I had for this issue was to have multiple DNS servers. solved it by buying a raspberry pi zero w and running a 2nd small instance of pihole there. I made sure that the piZeroW is plugged on a separate circuit in my home.
Good point. I just checked and streaming something to my TV causes IO delay to spike to like 70%. I’m also wondering if maybe me routing my Jellyfin (and some other things) through NGINX (also hosted on Proxmox) has something to do with it… Maybe I need to allocate more resources to NGINX(?)
The system running Proxmox has a couple Samsung Evo 980s in it, so I don’t think they would be the issue.
lemme know if you need some tshooting remotely, if schedules permit, we can do screenshares
Very nice of you to offer. I made a few changes (routing my problem Jellyfin client directly to the Jellyfin server and cutting out the NGINX hop, as well as limiting the bandwidth of that client incase the line is getting saturated).
I’ll try to report back if there’s any updates.
hey yeah, no stress!
just lemme know if you’d want someone to brainstorm with.
I had this issue when I used kubernetes, sata SSDs cant keep up, not sure what Evo 980 is and what it is rated for but I would suggest shutting down all container IO and do a benchmark using fio.
my current setup is using proxmox, rusts configured in raid5 on a NAS, jellyfin container.
all jf container transcoding and cache is dumped on a wd750 nvme, while all media are store on the NAS (max. BW is 150MBps)
you can monitor the IO using IOstat once you’ve done a benchmark.
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Yeah, I’ve been looking into it for some time. It seems to normally be an issue on the client side (Nvidia shield), the playback will stop randomly and then restart, and this may happen a couple times (no one really knows why, it seems). I recently reinstalled that server on a new VM and a new OS (Debian) with nothing else running on it, and the only client to seem to be able to cause the crash is the TV running the Shield. It’s hard to find a good client for Jellyfin on the TV it seems :(
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If the VM crashing is because of high CPU usage on all cores, high IO delay on the storage, or an out of memory situation on the host, that would cause all of the other VMs to struggle as well.
How many cores do you have configured for jellyfin?
4 currently with 8GB RAM and no pass through for transcoding (only direct play)
This happens to me when there is an app keeping a file opened on NFS storage mapping
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