If anything, cannabis seems like a much better (and more profitable) drug around which to build a leisurely establishment.

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    The difference is you can’t taste other people’s alcohol but you can smell others’ smoke

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      People who are going to a place to smoke typically wouldn’t mind that. Take cigar or vape lounges, for instance. Also it’s usually people who don’t smoke weed who act like the smell of weed bothers them.

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        right but my point is if a group of friends want to go to a bar and some people don’t smoke or like the smell of smoke then there is a problem, it’s not like they can just opt not to smell smoke

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          Then don’t go to a weed bar, I guess. Laws are unlikely to allow weed and alcohol in the same place any time soon… though that already happens illegally at concerts and many bars I’ve been to. But people at the bars usually smoke outside. Colorado gov’t acts like all hell would break loose if people smoke and drink at the same time.

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          …that’s why you would only go to a place like that if everyone is down. Having them for people that want to go is fine, no one is forced to go.

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            That sounds nice in theory, but in reality the result is usually that if the majority of a group smokes, the nonsmokers don’t have much of a choice except for looking for new friends. That was a very common complaint when smoking in pubs and restaurants was still legal here.

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              Just because one person doesn’t want to go to something doesn’t mean they shouldn’t exist. You’re basically saying one person’s opinion/choice outweighs an entire group. If those choices constantly put you at odds with the group it might be best to find a group that aligns with your values more. There’s also nothing wrong with being friends with the people that want to go to things you don’t like, just tag along when they do things you do like. You also don’t have to have one set of friends, you can have multiple groups that like to do different things. I’m not pro banning things for the sake of others that can choose not to participate.

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                That line of arguing is exactly why it doesn’t work. And in general I agree that banning things because someone else doesn’t like it is wrong, getting rid of smoking wherever possible is better for everyone, including the smokers.

                For what it’s worth, pretty much everyone here in Austria agrees that the ban on smoking in indoor establishments was a good thing. It’s just so much better to come home from a night out and not reek like smoke so badly that everything you touch will smell for days.

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        Some establishments yes, but in most places I would not smell alcohol unless someone spilled it all over the floor. It’s anyway much less compared to smoke that will stick to your clothes

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      Edibles might make it better. But then you’ll need to give people something to do for an hour or so before it kicks in…

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      Dry vaporizers (with temperature below 200C) don’t have smoke so are a lot less offensive with smell, if not odorless particularly with access to fresh air.

      Also people smelling of alcohol, particularly if they are drunk or drinking liquor, is definitely a thing. Also barfing. I wouldn’t doubt bars having bad smells sometimes.

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      Right but you can consume cannabis in tons of different ways - cookies, cocktails, etc. Restaurants had smoking areas for decades with far worse air filtration systems.

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      there are THC drinks where I live, always a nice option for me to have at gatherings as a non-alcohol person.

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      One can find a ‘coffee shop’ in nearly any city in the Netherlands. The first was Mellow Yellow in Amsterdam. They opened in 1972. From that point the formula they had, (by selling the cannabis themselves instead of the 60s, dealers hanging around in a bar who would often sell hard drugs as well), spread slowly around the Netherlands into the coffee shop culture we have today. Couple of years later in '75 our government started decriminalizing soft drugs. Early 80s a tolerance policy was set up, so coffee shops were still illegal, but could go about their busyness freely if no involvement with selling hard drugs.

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    I went to one in Thailand. Got to borrow a bong and play billiards and Uno and stuff, it was a real nice and comfortable little place

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    There are some board game cafes in the states. And some of those overlap with legal weed :) but smoking indoors in public is still a no-go

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    The issue is that a lot of people that smoke weed in place would reak. I don’t think many people would enjoy the smell

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      They are usually not very cozy though since they are barely legal and they don’t want to get too much attention.

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        Since I’m getting downvoted here: what I wrote is based on my experience in the Zuid Holland region. It might be different in other places of the Netherlands.

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        Some coffeeshops have men with purple hats standing in front, essentially advertising the place. Not to mention all the big signs saying this is a coffeshop, with customers sitting outside on benches and smoking weed in plain sight. It’s definitely possible to find coffeeshops with boardgames, although they are not very popular, since I guess most tourists aren’t into that, and most locals can just smoke and play boardgames at home.

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    A bar near me has a few cocktails that use 5mg delta9 THC instead of alcohol.

    All of their alcoholic drinks can also be upgraded with 5mg thc for a few bucks more.

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    More friendly environment w/dry vaporizers (bag, whip, or portable/extract) so there’s no smoke (and note the lack of lasting/scented steam clouds that people hate about flavored vape pens). Also edibles and the like… but that just time-delay dosed food.

    I would say that drinking is a longer/more gradual experience so has more reason for a dedicated space. Though I guess the passable options that I mentioned could draw the experience out, but I’ve never done that so I’m not sure what that’s like compared to one-and-done/hanging-out-when-high.

    (though as others have said, it is a thing)

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    For the ones complaining of smell, Ill take the weed perfume over vomit dipped alcoholics any day.

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    I’m tired of these people that are so scared of cannabis and it’s effects, like they are straight out of reefer madness. You know what’s significantly more harmful and in practically everything you consume these days? Sugar. Caffeine is a close second.

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      Source for the caffeine claim? As far as I know caffeine is inversely correlated with all-cause mortality. The mechanism is uncertain but has been theorized to be mild appetite suppression, digestion, or coffee outweighing the caffeine itself.

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        The comment might be conflating their given stat with legal drugs that are addictive. Caffeine is more addictive, not more harmful. It still kinda goes to the same point of a rejection of cannabis use on the basis of harm/addiction being generally hypocritical of society though

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    As others have said, they exist mostly as coffee shops. Honestly, with the prevalence and near ubiquity of Delta 8 across USA now, I would have thought someone would have put the effort into making coffee shops. I have no idea why they haven’t gotten around to it yet. I found one that was a coffee shop that had delta 8 for sale, but not as a single product and they wouldn’t let me eat it in store…

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    These exist in some parts of California and Las Vegas. The ones in Vegas were all open within the last year or two AFAIK.

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    They’ve got this in Amsterdam but I would say it’s less accessible than bars/alcohol generally due to how polluted the air gets (despite the best efforts of filtration)