• Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social
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        You’re both framing his invasion of Ukraine as a struggle against NATO expansion, which is the same excuse he gives for his “special military operation”

        • davel [he/him]@lemmy.ml
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          It was framed that way for decades by people on the left and also by centrists like Jeffery Sachs and by right-wing, realpolitik ghouls like Henry Kissinger and John Mearsheimer.

          And Ukraine really does have a Nazi problem, which American media used to cover before Russia’s invasion, and then after the invasion it suddenly was considered Russian disinformation.

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      Turns out it’s more complicated than “person does bad things, and so every single action and affect of their action is completely cartoonishly evil”. Doesn’t mean some things they do AREN’T, don’t get me wrong.