• @Blubber28@lemmy.worldOP
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      I’m Dutch myself so nope, not assuming so XD

      Nevertheless, as a European, it is my continental duty to shit on Americans, which is (partially) why I made the meme :P

      • @Ejh3k@lemmy.world
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        Hold the fucking phone bud. You can shit on America all you want, but don’t. Think you can shit on Americans all you want.

        It was Americans that saved you all in ww2. We are mostly good and decent people.

        But, I have never in my life seen raisins anywhere near Mac & cheese. I’ve never seen olives near it either.

        • @Nythos@sh.itjust.works
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          Why do uptight Americans always go straight for “we saved your arse in WWII” whenever they feel the slightest bit offended someone riffed their country a tiny bit.

          • @Ejh3k@lemmy.world
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            Oh? The greatest credible threat to the world? Not saying that dropping two nukes on the country that invaded and raped or killed uncountable numbers of people is heroic, but without us and the lend lease, Europe was fucking done for.

            Also, none of us say arse.

            Thirdly, we fucking did save your ass in ww2. Also in ww1. I’m literally never the ugly American in public, I’ve had Turkish taxi drivers in German ask me why I want to go to the American army base because I’m so not that person.

            But give credit where it’s due.

            • @sock@lemmy.world
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              ur funny

              you saved nobodies ass and its EMBARRASSING youre taking ANY credit when you probably ask for help getting a milk jug out of the fridge.

              you saved nobody. america now has saved nobody. soldiers arent heroes theyre people that want to survive stop glorifying the war and the us like we won a call of duty campaign. America wants its own people to die and they want to capitalize on it.

              the military is for fuckn weirdos that like supporting oil tycoons and if youre forced to join then you have my utmost respect as that fucking sucks.

              if ur gonna talk shit at least have something to back it up how many one arm pullups can you do, how longs ur planche, front lever etc? oh you cant do any of these things because youre a couch politician, soldier, and patriot i forgot. focus on something useful in your life. america doesn’t wanna suck your dick

              • @Ejh3k@lemmy.world
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                I was in my second week of basic training when 9/11 happened, so don’t give me shit about supporting oil companies.

                I did my time. 15 months in baghdad in 03 and 04. Got hit with 13 IEDs, shot at nearly every day. You just don’t have a clue what you are talking about.

  • @negativeyoda@lemmy.world
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    I will go on record as saying I don’t give a shit if there’s pineapple on my pizza. I wouldn’t order it that way, but I’ll enjoy a pineapple, jalapeño, ham pizza if a slice is put in front of me.

    Raisins in Mac and cheese… I can imagine it’s probably tasty enough, but the rubbery consistency of raisins in tandem with sticky pasta is what I find revolting

    • @Dkarma@lemmy.world
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      I love raisins and even I think this would taste like shit.

      I do love me some Hawaiian tho and raisins are bomb in a biryani… Fight me 🤣

    • @scottywh@lemmy.world
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      Bacon is a tastier option than the ham… It’s actually my favorite combo of pizza toppings in fact.

    • @stolid_agnostic@lemmy.ml
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      Today I learned that this thread is real and not a meme. I honestly thought people were joking about raisins in Mac n cheese.

  • @theragu40@lemmy.world
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    I don’t get it.

    Is raisins in Mac n cheese like, a big thing in other countries and us Americans just don’t get it? If so I guess more power to you, that is news to me. I’d try anything once but I don’t really like raisins to begin with so it’s a bit of a tough sell.

    And yes, pineapple on pizza is delicious. I’ve seen some truly abhorrent pizza toppings from elsewhere in the world, so I don’t think we have some kind of monopoly on those crimes.

        • @zalgotext@sh.itjust.works
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          Apples and cheddar? Pear and brie? Peaches and balsamic?

          Sweet + tangy + savory is an incredibly popular combination, so Mac and cheese + raisins isn’t all that unusual.

          Also it’s subjective. You don’t have to like it, but it shouldn’t be surprising that other people do.

          • @Peaty@sh.itjust.works
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            Sweet and tangy with the presence of acids and moisture from the fruit are a good combo but guess what raisins don’t have?

            • @zalgotext@sh.itjust.works
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              You ever have a charcuterie board? Dried fruit and cheese are staples there, and neither are particularly moist.

              I’ll say it again, it’s ok to not like a particular thing, but you shouldn’t be surprised when someone else does. Everyone’s tastes are different.

  • @Vej@lemm.ee
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    I’m going to take one for the team and make this.

    I also love pineapple on pizza.

  • @Tak@lemmy.ml
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    Ugh. Pineapple on pizza was created in Canada.

    If you wanna throw shade at us go to deep fried Twinkies or something.

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    You do WHAT with Mac n cheese? Nah, forget pine apple pizza, your my new enemy.

  • @poinck@lemm.ee
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    I just want to confirm, that raisins do not belong anywhere! I rather have pineapples in my cheesecake.

    • newIdentity
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      Why does everyone seam to hate raisins (and olives)

      They are fucking delicious

      • @droans@lemmy.world
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        I love oatmeal raisin cookies and I’m tired of pretending I don’t.

        Raisins are delicious and most cookies would be improved with oatmeal.

        • Mario_Dies.wav
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          Oatmeal raisin cookies are one of my favorites! I don’t bake them often because I eat way too many cookies when I do.

        • @Peaty@sh.itjust.works
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          Have you ever tried aging the dough in the fridge for a few days? It makes the oatmeal softer while the outside gets crisp.

        • HotDogFingies
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          I love oatmeal raisin cookies, hold or majorly reduce the raisins. Cookie part tastes great because oatmeal is awesome.

      • @nikolai@feddit.de
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        Nah, don’t mix them up, olives are great, especially well sourced ones. Raisins are just an unpleasant surprise, every time.

      • HotDogFingies
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        People hate raisins because they’re not chocolate. I enjoy G.O.R.P. on occasion, but I don’t eat trail mix for the raisins. I leave most of them behind. They can be a bit much. Ratio of anything to raisin needs to be right. One raisin to five to ten of anything else, otherwise they’re just overwhelming.

        Olives, on the other hand, are fucking delicious. Hell yeah. Bathe me in their brine-rich kisses.

      • Ayumu Tsukasa
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        Well for me it’s because grapes are my favorite fruit so it’s like everything I love about a grape is sucked out of it.

    • JGrffn
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      Hear me out. Christmas rice with raisins. They absorb moisture from the dish and become these sweet little treats in the midst of a very buttery and savory rice. I hate raisins but I fucking love that rice.

      • @poinck@lemm.ee
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        Interesting. That reminds that there is indeed another dish that is ok with raisins: Christmas loaf (Stollen).

      • HotDogFingies
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        I dunno what Christmas rice is, but raisins are so much better in savory applications than sweet.

          • JGrffn
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            Posted an explanation in this comment chain!

        • JGrffn
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          Maybe it’s a cultural or family thing? So it’s just pre-cooked rice, you cook it as you would any rice I guess, but you add chicken stock, raisins, and butter (at the end, after you’re done cooking it). Variations often also include peas and corn, maybe diced carrots, but we stick to just raisins. The savory mix of the buttery rice with tiny packets of moist raisins sprinkled about the rice makes it delicious!

    • @CADmonkey@lemmy.world
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      I wondered if it might be because of you lot. Pineapple is typically paired with canadian bacon (ham) on pizza.

      • @chiliedogg@lemmy.world
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        I didn’t like pineapple on pizza until a coworker did pineapple and jalapeno.

        The sweet/spicy combination was pretty great.

        • @Wage_slave@lemmy.ml
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          While I can go both ways for the mayo on the burger debate, not often you hear that it’s the best part.

          A&W is where I go for the mayo on burger goodness. Even the mozza sauce is just thousand island with more mayo essentially.

  • @AdmiralShat@programming.dev
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    There’s a big difference.

    One you’re putting berries on cheese with carbs

    The other you’re putting berries in cheese with carbs

    See the issue?

  • TeoTwawki
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    I’m italian from a family so italian we’re all walking stereotypes, and pinapple+black olive is my favorate pizza combination.

      • @Peaty@sh.itjust.works
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        I always loved hearing stories from kids that spoke Italian at home in NJ who then went to Italy to discover the 1850s era Sicilian they actually spoke was nothing like modern Italian.

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        My grandparents imigrated with all 12 of thier kids (my aunts and uncles), you got a problem -lots of hand motions- wid that? Eh? Eh?

        But seriously who started all this topping gatekeeping, pizza has spread all over the world with variations evrywhere.

  • @banneryear1868@lemmy.world
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    Pineapple on pizza is such a forced debate, nobody normal sincerely cares that much, and anyone who does is either pretending or has a toddler-level approach to food. The “authentic Italian” gatekeeping is also incredibly stupid and ironic, given Italy’s history of appropriating other culture’s foods then claiming they are the arbiters of the most “authentic” version of said food.

    My fav dolce pizzas to make are cinnamon date puree with pecans and brown sugar sprinkled over top, or a sliced pear/apple with brie and a Balsamic drizzle.

    • @zalgotext@sh.itjust.works
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      Any contrarian food opinions are forced debate, and just plain stupid. Arguing that “pineapple doesn’t belong on pizza” is the logical equivalent to arguing “no one’s favorite color should be red”.

      • @banneryear1868@lemmy.world
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        The hilarious pizza regulatory body in Italy says it’s not real pizza though!

        This is maybe a hot take but some of the most authentically branded and certified pizza in Italy happened to also be some of the worst pizza I’ve ever eaten, and the best pizza I had in Italy was no better than a good quality pizza anywhere else. I mean they’re damn good pizzas, but turns out baking a circle of dough with tomato sauce and cheese on it is a pretty basic thing to do well. And yeah I know there’s complexity in all of this but it’s not materially complex. Use the proper flour and hydration, knead it well, let it cold ferment for a day, shape it properly. Oh you didn’t use the Roma tomatoes from Mt Vesuvius? Sorry not real pizza.

        Also the demand for authentic Italian pizzas from foodies in North America has created some of the worst pizza abominations, because the skill required to shape a ball of dough by hand isn’t widely present in the service industry workforce. Like yeah when the right person is in it’s great, but even at these upper range places tough gummy dough inconsistently shaped is common. “Never frozen though so it’s real!” Nobody can taste the difference between frozen dough that’s been thawed, let to rise, and baked, if anything the longer ferment time makes it taste better.

        If you can’t tell I detest the ironic authenticity trend in these heavily market-researched upper range investment restaurants right now. That’s not even to say the notion of authentic food is bullshit, but it seems like a lot of these type of places are more focused on creating a commodified form of what people think authentic food is, than actually making good food. Unfortunately this trend has plagued the humble pizza. I think the way to judge if a pizza is “real” is if you can consume it while walking down a street having a conversation, that’s real pizza.

        What all of this effort should really go to… Italy should invalidate the Italian ancestry of anyone involved with calling Chicago deep dish “pizza.” That shit is a casserole, delicious as it may be. NOT PIZZA

      • @banneryear1868@lemmy.world
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        I dunno cause dried fruits are pretty normally served with cheese, and if the starch was a baguette or cracker instead of pasta it would be considered almost boring. People add ketchup to mac’n’cheese which I think is gross, but to me that’s a stronger and sweeter taste than rasins.