I’m currently still using gmail unfortunately

Cock.li (airmail.cc)looks very nice but it is invite only

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      Got a source for that? Proton isn’t able to access to any user emails. I believe Swiss law also makes it illegal for them to provide user information without a (Swiss) court order.

      The only case I’ve heard of that was similar was when the Swiss court ordered them to provide all the info they had on a user. This was the last IP address they logged on from and a recovery email the user had entered. The recovery email is an optional thing the user had set up on their account. They also used this same email address to sign up for a Twitter account. They were able to get enough data from Twitter to identify the person.

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          That doesn’t hold up against the publicly available source code for their applications, white papers on their security and encryption, and multiple independent security reviews. And again, they are legally required to ignore US court orders. Only a Swiss court order can compel them to provide user information.

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        Courts can require you to provide your password in some circumstances. Where your email is stored is irrelevant.

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          In that case Proton wouldn’t be providing the data, the user would be. Proton can’t provide what they don’t have.

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            That seems unlikely since your data is encrypted with a password they don’t have.

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                Vast majority of Proton users signed up because Proton promises your data is safe at rest. Even from them. In fact, they specifically advertise this protects them from subpoenas because they cannot provide decrypted copy of user’s data.

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                You were being mislead with false information. Share appropriate sources to back up whatever you are saying. Proton has regular audits for security and encryption for all their products, which makes whatever you’ve been told pretty much false information

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      While this is undesirable, you can’t expect a corporation to break the law for you just because. proton at least is better than the rest of the corporate, for-profit providers who sell your data to the highest bidder.