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    Anecdotal evidence is not stronger than actual data. Your father became reliant on the state because the state paid a living wage and other jobs didn’t.

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        Social programs don’t go far enough. You can’t lift yourself out of poverty when you’re paid before the poverty line. People who need these resources can’t afford to lift themselves out of poverty.

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            You are protecting a lot of stereotypes into a very diverse set of people. You can’t police the few that would spend their money on heroine without punishing those who need food for themselves and their children. Stop blaming the poor for all of societies problems and start looking at the rich to pay their debt to society.

            There is no effort you can put into getting out of poverty because the system is designed to keep you impoverished.

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                Not without creating a complex and expensive system that is unnecessarily penalizing.

                You’re right, you didn’t mention the rich and that’s the problem. Your focus has been on the wrong group this entire time. Quit obsessing over the people with the least power to affect any change in they’re lives and start focusing on the group that never faces scrutiny but is most deserving of it.

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                    It’s off topic only because you want it to be. Just give the poor some money and mind your business. Stop supporting a fucking police state that had its nose up everyone’s ass and has arbitrary and penalizing standards that people have to meet.

                    It’s is a massive societal problem with a simple solution: mind your fucking business. Studies gave shown that giving the poor money leads to substantially better outcomes than creating a massive bureaucracy. The latter is also more expensive and wasteful of taxpayer dollars.

                    Meanwhile the rich want to pay poverty wages and dodge taxes.