Things have gotten better and progress has been made from times past, it just seems worse now because we have more access to information. We’ve come far, and have further to go!

  • Guildo@feddit.de
    48·
    1 year ago

    besides this, China did a huge job on getting people out of poverty - if you like or not

    • Nobsi@feddit.de
      6·
      1 year ago

      What? How did china get people out of poverty?

      Edit: They didnt. After a long journey we found out that china is boasting about how all chinese citizens are now above 1 dollar a day aka. EXTREME poverty(in 2011) Aparrently this is an achievement and not incredibly sad.

      Also Guildo is a CCP Shill.

        • Nobsi@feddit.de
          4·
          1 year ago

          Not what Guildo guy was going for but yes, horrible thing and that did improve ehm… statistics.

            • Nobsi@feddit.de
              4·
              1 year ago

              " For example, the World Bank draws a higher poverty line for upper-middle-income countries, which tries to reflect economic conditions. It sets this at $5.50 a day. China is now an upper-middle-income country, says the bank.

              About a quarter of China’s population is in poverty, according to this metric. For comparison, this is slightly higher than Brazil.

              And there is widespread income inequality. Last year, Chinese Premier Li Keqiang said China still had 600 million people whose monthly income was barely 1,000 yuan ($154). He said that was not enough to rent a room in a city.

              The great leap forward is the reason so many people from extreme poverty died and reversing those changes is not liftig people out of poverty but reversing changes that put people in extreme poverty.".

              Yes, by 1980 third world country standards china has a 0.7 percent poverty rate. Thats ignoring 40 years of development of the rest of the world. And also that china is not a third world country anymore.

              Go move into a Tofu Dreg Highrise and tell me how good it looks from up there.

              • Guildo@feddit.de
                6·
                1 year ago

                You’re talking all the time like China is still a third world country. You have to decide.

                • Nobsi@feddit.de
                  4·
                  1 year ago

                  No i am not. I literally said it isnt in 3 of my answers to you. Do you know how to read? Do you want me to communicate in Chinese with you?

          • Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world
            5·
            1 year ago

            Oh I bet it was and they’ll just ignore the great famine as being some natural thing that just happened and wasn’t due to the policies of the CCP.

            That’s how everyone I’ve met that has talked about the CCP raising people from poverty have posed it.

      • oce 🐆@jlai.lu
        2·
        1 year ago

        The real answer is probably opening to state controled capitalism and globalization, becoming the factory of the world for a couple of decades.

        • Nobsi@feddit.de
          2·
          1 year ago

          And reversing most of the things that mao did.
          He killed over 50 million people and caused a braindrain in china that no following leader has managed to fix. The fact that china got everyone over the extreme poverty line in 2020 is sad. A marketleader like china shouldnt have anyone in extreme poverty.

        • Calavera@lemm.ee
          4·
          1 year ago

          Maybe I’m too naive, but even if you hate a country for its economic and political choices, you can still be glad their working class population is getting out of poverty and It’s not like they are getting richer by slaving a whole continent

          • Guildo@feddit.de
            2·
            1 year ago

            Yeah… you can like some things and still hate everything else about it. Not everything is black or white - but some don’t like grey-scales.