Hair ties leading to receding hair line reeks of an old wives tale. I would look into actual research on the topic, and if it hasn’t been proven true, assume it is false.

Hey. My hair was pretty long and very nice. Here’s my number one tip: don’t use anything. Normal shampoo, don’t wash too often. No blow-dry, no hard brushes or combs, use soft brushes. The receding hairline is just genetics. Yeah hats and ponytails make it a little faster, but everyone’s hairline will recede.

For getting the hair out of the way, I also used bandanas sometimes.

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Just use a looser hair tie or one made out of a softer material and don’t tie your hair too tightly. Hair ties can break your hair and cause frizz, but a receding hairline is usually a genetic thing, there’s nothing much you can do about it outside of checking with a dermatologist for some treatment.

As for your second question, to have more volume the best option is to get a haircut with some layering, it helps to create volume. The other thing you can do it is use a leave-in conditioner to help style your hair, apply just a coin sized amount (maybe even less) to your hair from the middle of it’s lenght to its tips, applying too much will make your hair flat, it will help keep it in place with some volume. Your other option is to use some hair pomade to keep it in place, but it can look wet if you use too much.

A receding hairline, apart from genetics, might happen when you tie your hair very, very tight. A loose tail would not be an issue.

I’ve used hair ties for over 20 years and my hair line isn’t receeding. I’m pretty sure that’s either bullshit, or it’s caused by pulling your hair back too hard and literally ripping it out.

I’ve had hair past my shoulders on and off for more than a decade in total over the last 30 years.

It is basically always pulled back in a hair tie and as @glad_cat has said, no receding hair line here.

I use no product in it at all and wash/condition it once a week. I regularly have women comment that they wish their had hair as healthy as mine and ask what products I use. My reply is always none.

My hair is super strait, so it is always flat. meh. That’s what it is.

From what I have found, the less you fuck with it. The better it is.

No receding hairline for me and I’ve been tying my hair for 20 years.

Also I would check this link, it’s for curly hair but they have good advice: https://lemmy.world/post/661730

Not a man but hair ties leading to receding hairlines is referencing traction alopecia. Basically you pull your hair so tight it gets ripped out at the front over and over resulting in more or less the equivalent of how folks who plucked their eyebrows for years had them stop growing back.

My recommendation as a long haired woman who doesn’t like her hair in her face is hair ties in loose buns/ponytails (best practice is to switch it up from time to time so you don’t wind up with friction damage on the same place) and hair clips once it’s long enough for them.

I have long 2A hair with your goals and wear my hair slicked back and it took me a long time to figure out how to take care of it well so here are my tips:

Once you get it around the length you want, go to a good salon and get a trim. The outside layer of your hair gets the most environmental and UV damage and I bet you haven’t gotten that cleaned off since you started growing it out. Just this single item changed my mind from “I’m getting sick of long hair and I don’t know what to do with it maybe I’ll cut it all off again” to loving it more than I have in many years. It has more movement and looks way healthier and has helped me keep it out of my face.

Yes, wearing hair ties can cause your hair to thin at the front of your scalp, called traction alopecia. But only if you have some combo of weak hair retention, pull and tie your hair way too tight, and/or use too tight of hair ties all the time. This happened to me after a couple of years and switching to claw clips sometimes and changing some routine steps helped me recover most of it.

If you’re just chilling around your house try using a claw clip instead of a hair tie. I make a loop over the top of my horizontal index finger, curl my finger in to grab the hair, and then give my wrist a half to full twist so that the bend in the loop is facing down and the end of my hair is pointing up and clip it. It keeps all my hair out of my face without any pulling pressure.

Don’t use a fine, close toothed comb on your long hair. I recommend a combo of a wide space, fine tooth comb (hard to describe I wish I knew the name of it) or a paddle brush. I’ve started dropping the comb entirely and using just the paddle brush and my hair has had more body.

Find a nice shampoo and conditioner for your hair type and scalp oiliness. A nicer shampoo can be a benefit but there is a diminishing return on cost so you don’t have to buy the most expensive stuff on the market. Then work on figuring out a good shampoo schedule for your hair. Usually for me it’s one day on/one or two days off but my hair is very fine so it looks gross quickly when it gets oily (but again a nice haircut from someone who knew what I was looking for helped this out a ton, too). Every day, especially if you’ve spent all day with it tied up, use your fingers or a scalp massage brush to really stimulate your scalp. Not only does it feel amazing, it helps ensure good blood flow to your scalp follicles and clean up any sebum build up. On days you don’t use shampoo, either just do a massage with your fingers or just use water to clean your hair in the shower and do the massage. Depending on the moisture/protein content of your hair, use conditioner but infrequently. I use a very small amount of conditioner about once a week, but again I have fine hair. Only use the conditioner about halfway down your hair length to avoid weighing down your hair by your scalp, this can help you keep your hair healthy but keep from getting flat. Make sure to thoroughly wash the conditioner out.

I squeeze my hair out and then use old t-shirts to dry it instead of a towel and after a little bit of that I noticed my hair improve over using a towel which can roughen your hair and pull moisture out (allegedly). If you want to feel really fancy, pick up a cheap silk pillowcase, mine a few years ago was about $20. It’s very smooth so it helps keep your hair from getting snagged and tangley at night.

Now for product - I’m a recent convert over to using mousse. I hated how flat and no volume my hair looked when I didn’t want to wear it up, and how much it kept falling in my face. Mousse helped give my hair volume and hold it back without giving it that crisp look gels and hairspray can give or the oiliness of pomades. There are dozens of types of mousses on the market but look for one that advertised volume and medium hold. With your hair slightly damp, rub the mousse in your hands to activate it, flip your head down and your hair forward and run your hands and fingers through your hair from root to tip along the front half of your hairline and a little in the back. Scrunch your hair up and run your fingers through towards the back as you feel the mouse dry. Flip your hair around a little and then stand up and flip it back. Wet your hands just a little and run your fingers through your hair towards the back, adding a little bit of mousse if you need it and let it air dry. This should give you a good amount of volume and also help keep your hair out of your face (my least favorite thing about long hair.

I hope this helps you out and feel free to ask any questions. I’m not an expert but I’ve had long hair for several years now and I’m finally happy with how it looks both up and down

Hairties leading to a receding hairline sounds like grade A bullshit to me, sure it might pull some hairs out but in that case either you’re going to lose the hair regardless or you need to tie it looser.

As for product: just don’t. If you’ve rubbed cowpats into your hair for some reason then just use regular soap to clean it, anything more advanced is a scam perpetrated by product companies to make you spend money on expensive shampoo that strips your hair and scalp of natural oils so that you have to also buy expensive conditioner to put oils back…

Just scrub your body and rub your hair a bunch in the shower, and use as fine-toothed of a comb as you can find on your hair every day, to distribute the oils through your hair. This is what people have done since we invented combs (and we invented them pretty damn quick) and it works fine.

I leave that to the birds nesting in my beard.

Isn’t the receding hairline thing if you tie the ponytail too tight to the point that your hair looks like it’s trying to be freed from your scalp?

I wash it with shampoo and conditioner every once in a while

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