Image description: Two images. The top image is of a sign for a “Back to the Bible Holiness Church*” that reads “God created man & woman Satan made gays and transgender gen 5:2”. The bottoms image is of a women sitting on a porch wearing sunglasses, dark clothes, and smoking. The caption reads “Praise Satan.”

  • Malgas@beehaw.orgEnglish
    7·
    1 year ago

    For anyone wondering, Genesis 5:2 is:

    Male and female he created them, and he blessed them and called them humans when they were created.

    Which, I don’t see any support there for the latter part of the sign.

    Getting into the weeds a bit, the first mention of God creating humans “male and female” is back in Gen 1:27, but Eve doesn’t show up until Gen 2:21-22. So there was a period of time (long enough, at least, for Adam to name all the plants and animals) when Adam alone was male and female.

    • BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee
      4·
      1 year ago

      Well you see, god made male and female. Trans women are men and they’re defiling themselves to appear like something they’re not. This is against God’s word so therefore Satan made trans and the gays. Ignore the context of previous verses that contradict their current stance. Ignore the history and clear poetic language indicative of myth making (aka not meant to be taken literally). Ignore everything that doesn’t confirm to your narrow world view.

      What’s baffling me to me is that if we’re to follow the train of thought in the OP, then they recognize (to some extent) that trans people aren’t their assigned gender at birth. They’re apparently something else. These goobers lose the plot immediately after that, claiming theyre products of satan but it’s still infuriating that they’ll only “play the game” insofar as it allows them to dehumanize others

      TL;DR white eurocentric christianity is a disease

      • TehPers@beehaw.orgEnglish
        1·
        1 year ago

        white eurocentric christianity is a disease

        Christianity and its derivatives are not exclusive to Europe. Latin America also has a lot of Catholicism, which is just as bad IMO. Honestly, this could extend to Abrahamic religions in general, although some derivatives are more accepting than others.

        • BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee
          1·
          1 year ago

          I could’ve worded it better but meh. I was just dunking on white christians. To be a bit more accurate and measured; Catholicism is still a European sect of Christianity that entrenches western hegemony and white supremacy. There are forms of Christianity that are very much allies to liberatory movements. The zapatistas come to mind. They practice liberation theology which stands in direct opposition to the Catholic Church in the Americas. I can’t speak much for Islam as I’m not very familiar with their interfaith politics, but Jews have a long history of working in/with progressive movements. Black activism in the United States in many of its forms have been religious as well. I hesitate to label any religion as outright bad or destructive. Faith has its place in society, even though it’s not my cup of tea, and it can be used for good just as much as it can bad.

          Religions are shaped by the times just as much as they shape them and radical shifts in the broader world can lead to radical shifts in religion or vice versa. If you’re interested (and have the time) Anark’s video on complex systems sheds some light on this. It’s through the lense of constructing a self-perpetuating revolution but the broad strokes apply to many things. Religion shouldn’t be dismissed outright or suppressed as it will only breed reaction. Instead it should be embraced and molded into a driver of good. By those within the religion that is, I doubt believers would be particularly receptive of an outsider trying to directly muck about with their doctrine

          • TehPers@beehaw.orgEnglish
            1·
            1 year ago

            I’ll take a look at those resources, thanks for sharing! I agree that religion itself should not be dismissed, which is why I tried to clarify that many branches of Christianity are more accepting than others (and I’m less familiar with other non-Abrahamic religions, and other Abrahamic religions of course have their own histories and branches interpreting them their own ways). Religion does have its place in society, however this particular religion has historically been used excessively for control and to discriminate, which is what makes it particularly egregious. I mostly wanted to point out that the anti-LGBT+ sentiment was not exclusive to white or European followers of the religion (though the religion did originate in Europe as you mentioned), although in the US you’ll see a lot of hardcore white Christians being anti-LGBT+.