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    Yeah, they “convinced us” to want to buy things.

    Dumbest Marxist conspiracy theory out there. People like having stuff. You can convince them to get different stuff but people aren’t going to go all hobbit and live a simple life if given the choice 9 of ten times

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        We all understanding that department stores and companies sold us all kinds of things we didn’t need

        The vast majority of this isn’t what makes up the economy or fossil fuel emissions and generally the people engaged in random department store shopping are doing it well under their own motivation.

        Life pre department store era , we’re talking pre 50s, you’d be considered insane to have the stuff we do

        Fantastically wealthy you mean. People in the 50s wanted to have all this crap too. They just couldn’t have it because the economy was tiny.

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            When you start out with such a massively misleading statement like:

            Industry is responsible for more than 20% of all emissions

            When industry is literally stuff like cars, industrial equipment, oil production, basically all chemical production, and so on and so forth.

            Cheap disposable plastic mall trinkets are not a major industrial sector. The vast majority of industrial spend is stuff that actually improves people’s lives.

            If you’re going to start criticizing “products” then again you’re talking about stuff that for the most part people just want. And stuff for the most part that people would want regardless of advertisements.

            This:

            You have never been under your own motivation

            Is what I’m talking about when I say it’s conspiracy thinking.

            Maybe.

            Just maybe.

            People are able to think for themselves.

            It’s extra hilarious that you link a study on subliminal messaging, which is one of the fields in psychology that have been embroiled in reproducibility issues and fraud.

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                "I believe this only underscores my point

                I was caught peddling bunk folk psychology to peddle my conspiracy theory about we are all getting manipulated to serve the evil overlords and that only makes my point stronger

                You didn’t engage with the study itself.

                I don’t engage with flat earth bullshit or other conspiracy theories either. I engage with things that are worth engaging with. An Amazon pundit piece peddling crap about your free will being taken away subliminal messages goes into the instant trash with the other garbage.