• Monkstrosity@lemm.ee
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    I’m sorry but anyone who thinks we’re actually in a free capitalist system is delusional. The freedom is a lie they sell us to perpetuate the system.

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      An actual 100% free market would be rife with drug and human trafficking.

      It’s good to have some regulation, and by and large the US is a mostly free market. You are free to start almost any business you want.

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        Drug trafficking is good, but not really needed when you can grow your own. Human trafficking is a good reason for robust self defense.

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          There’s a lot more drugs than just the ones you grow at home.

          Robust self defense like what? I reallyyy want to know what you consider to be a robust self defense.

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            Guns. Lots of guns. Mostly social acceptance of our right to self defense, which I’m not convinced we’ve fully solved yet. The robust means sorting out what constitutes a legitimate threat that requires defense and the levels of response considered reasonable. I’m fine with a gal smoking a rapist, for example.

            Trade is technology and so is society. Much like it’s hard to predict electronic and scientific progress, I think it’s hard to predict social progress.

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              What kinds of guns?

              Which guns would you take to work or go grocery shopping?

              Which guns would you give your kids to go to school?

              Where would you buy ammunition when the gangs and cartels control all gun and ammunition trade? (Along with the synthetic drugs and human trafficking)

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                All of those are personal preferences.

                I guess you’d just have your child slaves make the ammo.

                I find it not at all difficult to talk to people on the left about theory, but there’s no end of smugness coming the other way. I really love the concept of lemmy and the room it has for learning new things about social relationships, but fuck.

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                  Yeah, I’m asking you about your personal preferences.

                  My personal preference would be that labor is regulated so that child labor is illegal. And that guns are legal but reasonably regulated so that I don’t have to carry an arsenal with me because someone at the grocery store with diagnosed mental illness packing a ton of heat might get upset and decide to unload into a crowd of people.

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                    I’d like all human interaction to be voluntary. Pragmatically I’m fine with not letting kids work.

                    As for guns? Tally ho lads! I don’t own any but I’m not comfortable with most firearm regulations.

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      When North Korea has better demographics than all the capitalist countries ( no immigration doesn’t count, it’s cheating ) you have a big problem as an ideology.