Yep. I say this as a resident of the United States and it will take at minimum decades to fix the damage that Trump has caused in just nine months. More likely (assuming the US survives) it will take multiple generations to fix the damage from Trumps second term.
Seconded as another American - the brain drain alone from deterring immigration by conservatives may make that process even longer (or require a new system of governance entirely)
Also the brain drain by actively fighting to prevent scientific research.
Yet another debuff to the pile XD
Your second revolution is going to be starting soon.
As a Canadian- it isn’t “the damage Trump has caused in 9 months.” It’s the damage the US populace at large has done and allowed to be done for roughly 3-4 decades while literally everyone was telling you to wake the fuck up because this was the trajectory you were on.
In response to the entire world trying to warn you off this path, you closed your eyes, stuck your fingers in your ears, flipped us off, yelled louder and started flying your flags more conspicuously.
Trump is one small part of the gargantuan fuckup YOU allowed to happen. Trump is a symptom. A few entire generations of Americans are the cause.
I know, I know. We’ve seen the rot spreading since Regan, but it’s nearly impossible to get rid of when about half the voting public think it’s ordained by god to vote straight republican.
Except when they wanted to travel. Then they traded their conspicuous flags for Canadian ones.
You figure? You figure people who elect a psychopath who threatens to destroy my country economically before annexing it as the fifty-first state may have lost a lot of trust?
That’s just crazy talk!
Thursday’s poll found that 42 per cent of Canadians said they believe Carney will succeed in negotiating a new trade deal with the Trump administration.
Why? I don’t want Canada to have a trade deal with the USA. I want Canada to isolate the USA. A trade wall, ideally armed with machine guns and flamethrowers. Let them stew in their own juices while we trade with countries that aren’t prone to electing obvious man-toddlers into the highest possible office.
So when your country eventually elects their own little Hitler you’d want the same for yourself? You want the whole world to isolate you and threaten to kill you if you leave. Glad to see Canadian niceness is as hypocritical as ever.
If my country elects our own little Hitler, fucking YES I’d want the world to isolate us until we learned to grow the fuck up. If we elect our own little Hitler, we are a legit threat to the world. We really should be isolated until we can prove we are no longer carriers for the infection.
This is so heartbreaking. I live on the border, frequently visit Ontario and Quebec, even honeymooned in the Maritimes. It’s hard to imagine that I may never be able to do that ever again, but here we are.
I recall how bad I felt waking up in November 2024 knowing that awful things were going to happen, but alienating our closest ally was not one of them. Stay safe, Canada, I hope to see you again some time.
Canadian here close to the border. I used to visit your country somewhat regularly, but I don’t think I’ll ever go down south again. My wife has some extended family in the states and they’ll never visit up here so I guess we just aren’t seeing them ever again. It’s unfortunate but that’s what video calls are for I guess.
As a Canadian, I say come visit still. We’d love to have you as long as you’re respectful and don’t bring pro-Trump speech with you (and given you’re on Lemmy I’m sure you’re the kind of person we’d welcome with open arms up here).
No one is against Americans vacationing in Canada. Many of us chose not to go down because of this stupid economic warfare the administration started. But that’s just business, as they say. It’s about asserting economic independence. Come visit. No worries, buddy.
Seconded. Just make sure your American papers are in order for when you return.
Be, however, on your best behaviour because people are going to have a hair trigger on normal American shitfuckery these days.
“I hope to see you again some time.” Honestly, I hope so to.
First of all, thank you to all the kind replies from Canadians to this. It’s one of the reasons I love Canada so much. It’s not going to Canada that I worry about, it’s going back into the US that gives me pause. You just never know what the border policy might be on any given day.
Only 6 in 10?
4 in 10 thinks we can fix it at some point.
If the USA gets their act together and can show that they can elect sane politicians 12+ years after trump/vance term ends.
That’s my hope.
Their system prevents them from electing sane politicians.
I’m sucking down the hopeium bottle by bottle:
It shows! 🤣
12+ years total of sane politicians or in a row? Because I’m sure we can get a nonfascist in eventually, but 12+ years in a row of politicians who are merely sane is a big ask pretty much everywhere
When you compare to the fascist felon there’s a wide margin for sanity.
Or 3 out of the 4 never trusted them to begin with. 1 might think we can fix it
4 in 10 already distrusted the US.
I don’t even like the idea of flying over the USA to go on vacation to Mexico. We might just save up and go to a hot part of Europe instead, it’s just a lot more flying.
Lol. Canada was one of the only countries that used to trust America. No one wants to play with the bully
We didn’t fully trust them.
But it was convenient to deal with them, based on proximity.
Now that they’ve gone full retard that proximity advantage isn’t worth what it once was.
6/10 Americans won’t trust America again also.
Came here to say this. The last decade has truly flipped my perception of the rest of america on its head. Well, my perception of conservatives, at least. I always knew that people are people and there’s a spectrum of good to bad. I’ve come to realize that Republicans literally do not care about trying to help anyone else unless they see some sort of personal return of either money or power. I’ve seen so many people that I thought were “a good, slightly dumb person misguided by politics” fully throw themselves behind Trump. Everything that they say they believe in is apparently a lie, since they so readily line up to worship a person so antithetical to what they pretend to believe. I can not and do not trust anyone that identifies with Republicans or even conservatism at this point.
Seems four out of ten Canadians aren’t paying attention.
My parents are in this 4 of 10. They watch Fox News, donate regularly to the Republican party even though they are Canadian, they do not donate to the conservative party of Canada (I dunno), call me every time Carney does something they dislike because I voted Liberal, and still spend a good chunk of their time in Florida where they own property and are proud of it.
Trump has become an unpopular subject as my sister will lose her shit at family gatherings so they no longer mention his name. But are big supporters!
“maple MAGA” like your parents kind of fascinate me. I wonder how deep the mentality goes for these people, and how much is just aesthetics and/or a deeply misguided attempt to escape from the relative boredom of a safe 1st-world country whose democracy is still intact. It demonstrates a stunning lack of awareness though, and it’s cute how they don’t seem to realize that actual MAGA would likely reject them out of hand for being “foreigners”.
They spend 6 months of the year in Florida and have a large group of MAGA folk they golf with. My step father is a former corporate COO, he has tons of like-minded friends down there. They’re accepted and welcomed
In my experience about 4 out of 10 people don’t know anything about critical thinking; what it is or how to do it.
I wonder how many of those already had an opinion of the Americans that was so low it couldn’t sink any further?
As an American, same.
Fair enough. We did a lot these last nine months to piss of the rest of the world.
2 of them are lying, because they do not have the money to go down there anyways. 1 of them has to go down for work and the other is Danielle Smith.
I don’t blame y’all
So America can be a brutal regime that fucks over the global south and Canadians trust that. They ally that. Canada has been a close ally throughout so much evil.
But now we inflict a little evil on you guys and suddenly you don’t trust us? I mean that kinda implies you guys liked us before?
It’s like a moral abyss from the north pole to the Mexican border.
I don’t blame the Canadians.
I don’t either, it’s totally rational response. I feel sorry for Canadians too because they are powerless, and also because I unironically, sincerely, not-trying-to-be-an-edgelord believe that they will become a property of the US in the future.
The USA will regret that choice if they do it.
Keep in mind here that the Geneva
ChecklistConventions were created in part because of how CANADIANS behaved in WWI. See, all y’all have a serious problem if you bring Canada into your fold by hook and crook. Unlike the usual places all y’all go adventuring in to shoot or bomb brown people, most Canadians look like you. Talk like you. Can easily pass for you. We also have huge unsettled space in which to conceal ourselves while training, kind of like how the Taliban had no trouble finding safe-ish places to train in Afghanistan until they finally drove all y’all out.So consider how hard it would be to defend yourselves from a Canadian version of the Taliban. We already have a history of being utterly ruthless on the battlefield, and that’s when none of the combatants were actually a direct threat to our nation and nor were they occupying our nation. You think our forces will be better-behaved if you annex us…?
There won’t be a safe place in the USA where Canadians couldn’t strike.
I don’t doubt you or the people. Please don’t shoot the messenger, but the image that I see is more like economic possession. I don’t see any Afghanistan style occupation or conflict, but rather economic control by proxy and that there are those amongst your people that will sell the rest of you out. The aristocrat class will remain as usual and they will align with US interest. I hope I am wrong because I prefer a world where power is balanced as much as possible.
that’s completely fair
for all the terrible things both political parties wrought globally from the end of WWII until a Jan 20, 2017, they were united (more or less) in a commitment to being a rules and laws based main even if it hurt “their side” from time to time.
Even Reagan’s “11th Amendment” would be set aside from time to time to preserve America’s standing in the world.
Not so any more. And i don’t actually know if it’s possible to get that reputation back.
