Arguments that comunism was bad? The internet is gushing with info (videos, testimonies, history, you name it) you just have to look at it and consider it.
Convincing somebody over the internet? You don’t want to see any other opinion, you just want to pick an argument with me to test your “revolutionary claws” against the “bourgeois” and/or the “imperialist pigs”!
I don’t know what you’ve been through to embrace these ideas and I don’t care. I’ve seen my grandparents believing like you that “the grass is greener” - they got wiser through reality checks. I’ve seen my parents live in the “Age of Gold” and being disappointed that their whole youth work was in vain, I’ve experienced some goodies on my own.
And everbody reached the conclusion that:
“In capitalism the man exploits the man, in comunism it’s the other way around!”
Well good for you. What you’re trying to do is an argumentum ab auctoritate. Even if it was true it would give you a heavily biased and schewed information about the real life in comunism because you would have been in the circle of the privileged. The Party “aristocracy” so life probably would have been good and dandy.
On the internet you can find any kind of information, there are methods to verify the sources and compile coherent streams of information about anything. But this means work and time and it’s easier to find an ecochamber in a “dedicated” forum and feel good about yourself.
L.E. my arguments are neither strong nor weak. I’ve mentioned their source so you know why I’m stating them. Like I already said your or someone else validation of them is not required.
Bolshevik Communism was the second worst thing to happen to the working class in the 20th century. Second only to the rise of corporate Capitalism. Its failure crippled any other working class revolution for the 30 plus years.
For those living in Europe please add: the spanish flu pandemic so “a plague”, the expansion of communism, post war reconstruction (twice).
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we were talking about bad things
Yup, I know what I’m talking about, unfortunately for me I’ve been “blessed” of being born in comunism. Can you say the same thing about yourself?
Alright enlighten us; when and where?
Why, you think I need your validation of my life experience from you?
Just wondering if you’d bring any more argument to the discussion. Maybe some insight for us laypeople?
Arguments that comunism was bad? The internet is gushing with info (videos, testimonies, history, you name it) you just have to look at it and consider it.
Convincing somebody over the internet? You don’t want to see any other opinion, you just want to pick an argument with me to test your “revolutionary claws” against the “bourgeois” and/or the “imperialist pigs”!
I don’t know what you’ve been through to embrace these ideas and I don’t care. I’ve seen my grandparents believing like you that “the grass is greener” - they got wiser through reality checks. I’ve seen my parents live in the “Age of Gold” and being disappointed that their whole youth work was in vain, I’ve experienced some goodies on my own.
And everbody reached the conclusion that: “In capitalism the man exploits the man, in comunism it’s the other way around!”
Well in that case my daddy was Joseph Stalin’s gardener.
Since all claims on the internet are true, obviously my arguments are now just as strong as yours.
Well good for you. What you’re trying to do is an argumentum ab auctoritate. Even if it was true it would give you a heavily biased and schewed information about the real life in comunism because you would have been in the circle of the privileged. The Party “aristocracy” so life probably would have been good and dandy.
On the internet you can find any kind of information, there are methods to verify the sources and compile coherent streams of information about anything. But this means work and time and it’s easier to find an ecochamber in a “dedicated” forum and feel good about yourself.
L.E. my arguments are neither strong nor weak. I’ve mentioned their source so you know why I’m stating them. Like I already said your or someone else validation of them is not required.
It was so good it eventually collapsed and destabilized dozens of countries!
Bolshevik Communism was the second worst thing to happen to the working class in the 20th century. Second only to the rise of corporate Capitalism. Its failure crippled any other working class revolution for the 30 plus years.
That’s a wild take
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Gimme some sources on those stats that aren’t the already discredited black book of communism