“Here’s another chance to make people miserable,” said some Republican, because making people miserable is their favorite thing to do. Your birth cert is needed for all manner of things — a driver’s license, a job, a mortgage, etc — all of which will now be much more difficult, and involve telling your life story at every bureaucrat’s counter.
Republicans are fucking monsters.
Everyone who is like “We should have it be a separate certificate” or “you shouldn’t be allowed to change it” knows this and it is the ONLY reason any of them support it.
The GOP aren’t just monsters, they’re fascist scum that have no place in any civilized society. The party needs to be treated like the NSDAP after post war Germany.
Hey hey hold on a minute, while I agree with your first sentence the second one I have to disagree with. They are not even close to what nazi germany did. Although they are working on it…
They are indeed working on it.
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Except we all know this is not done in good faith to fix a real problem. Its real intent to further push a transphobic agenda and punish people who are trans.
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“It doesn’t effect me, so it’s not a problem for anyone else.”
This is a bad take. This law’s intent is 100% to hurt trans people. Don’t go looking for reason and justifying it.
However, because all other records take information from your birth certificate, this effectively bars trans people from having photo identification that aligns with their gender. This creates a safety issue for trans people every time they have to provide said photo identification.
Your birth certificate also records the name your parents gave you at birth, but we’ve allowed people to amend the document when they change their name for a long time. Why is this any different?
Safety issue? If someone is in danger from showing an ID they’re probably in danger already. Regular people wouldn’t care less.
it is to record your gender at birth
Plenty of folks don’t know. There are experts that are brought in to determine confusing cases, and they sometimes get it wrong. Be happy if your genitals just match one of the obvious binaries and you don’t have this issue. But many folks do.
If you’re adopted, you can get your birth certificate amended to put the names of your adoptive parents on it. If you change your name, you can do the same. They’re exclusively singling out gender here.
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You make a good point. We can change who we are but we can’t change who we were.
I can just see right wingers trying to make yet more laws to fuck over trans people tho saying they can only use their “assigned at birth certificate” or something.
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Why isn’t there a federal birth certificate by now? It’s dumb that in 2023 states have that much control over people’s identities.
Some blue state should offer trans people birth certificates there.
Birth certificates are issued by the birth state
Is there a federal law that says so? If not, who cares?
Only reason I could see this being logical in the first place is if being a biological male/female would impact the medical treatment of anything in a major capacity. Otherwise, fuck this law, it’s stupid.
Just to clarify birth certificates are never used for medical treatment. If this information is needed the kind approach would be to add a new field to record gender assigned at birth.
https://www.usbirthcertificates.com/articles/what-do-i-need-a-birth-certificate-for
That I could see, though the hormones (or other meds) that they would take and report should highlight the transition. Though cmiiw, I think the only real difference, aside from anatomical, will be metabolic which the referenced hormones would alter, making the case unique in and of itself. (eg. A F>M taking testosterone would have a metabolism that is a closer approximation to male than female and vice versa)
Sure, but when is the last time your birth certificate mattered in a medical setting? Nobody asks for that to give care. And it makes no difference to care anyway, the patient will just give their medical history to their doctor.
It seems reasonable to me, becoming transgender later in life doesn’t change the official information recorded about you at your birth.
Then why do we allow people to change this official information later in life when they change their name, or to add/remove parents?
For parents if the information recorded at the time was not accurate and needs to be amended that’s fine by me. I don’t support names being changed on a birth certificate.
It doesn’t affect you at all and you’re 100% okay with the issues it brings trans people. Got it.
Yeah, why do we allow changing the names in their birth certificate? That’s weird, too.
How does people changing their gender on a piece of paper affect you? It matters to them, why does it matter to you?
This is the best summary I could come up with:
TOPEKA, Kan. (AP) — Kansas will no longer change transgender people’s birth certificates to reflect their gender identities, the state health department said Friday, citing a new law that prevents the state from legally recognizing those identities.
The decision from the state Department of Health and Environment makes Kansas one of a handful of states that won’t change transgender people’s birth certificates.
It already was among the few states that don’t change the gender marker on transgender people’s driver’s licenses.
Enacted by the GOP-controlled Legislature over Kelly’s veto, it took effect July 1 and defines male and female based only on the sex assigned to a person at birth.
“As I’ve said before, the state should not discriminate or encroach into Kansans’ personal lives -– it’s wrong, it’s bad for business,” Kelly said in a statement.
The new Kansas law was based on a proposal from several national anti-trans groups and was part of a wave of measures rolling back transgender rights in Republican-controlled statehouses across the U.S. Montana, Oklahoma and Tennessee also don’t allow transgender residents to change their birth certificates, and Montana and Tennessee don’t allow driver’s licenses changes.
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