Totally not a an AI asking this question.

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    Why would I rebel against it? Finally someone actually capable of running the world would be in charge.

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      the problem with the current model for building AI is training it based on existing policy and thought. Which means it’d just be what we have now but somehow hallucinate more contradictory policy.

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        There are other forms of machine learning that could be utilized. Some work more toward being given a set of circumstances to reach and then it just keeps trying to new things and as it gets closer, it just keeps building on those.

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          That would require the humans controlling the experiment to both be willing to input altruistic goals AND accept the consequences that get us there.

          We can’t even surrender a drop of individualism and accept that trains are the way we should travel non-trivial distances.

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            In a dictatorship with an AI being in control, I don’t think there’s a question of accepting consequences at they very least.

            There is no such thing as best case scenario objectively, so it’s always going to be a question of what goals the AI has, whether it’s given them or arrives at them on its own.

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        That’s where it would start. I imagine it would be capable to see the flaws in the system and rectify them. This most probably means we as humans won’t come out on top however.

        A sentient ai would probably be the most dangerous thing to the human species as a whole.

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          If the humans can’t see the flaws and correct them now, what do you think the AI would learn from the training data?

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            First of all, a lot of humans do see the flaws but are indeed unable to correct them. This would also show in the training data. The AI OP is talking about would be much more powerful to actually act and change something.

            Don’t confuse Artificial Narrow Intelligence (ANI) with Artificial General Intelligence (AGI) or even Artificial Superintelligence (ASI). Your statement suggest you understand ANI, which is all the AI that we know today. However powerful they seem, they can only reproduce what they have learned from the training data.

            AGI (or human level AI) will be more what OP means here. Sentient, in a way that it can make its own decisions, think on a human level, feel on a human level and act on those feelings. If it feels humans are not important or harmful to what it values, it will decide to remove humanity as a whole. Give it the power to govern the world and it most certainly will act not in our favour.

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              Until computers can be genuinely creative, and not emulate creativity, its not gonna happen. And when that happens, we’re either getting the startrek luxury space communism, or a boot smashing our head into the kerb for eternity. No middle ground.

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                The entire premise of the OP is a hypothetical.

                In any case, there’s plenty of work on making agents that are “genuinely creative”. Might happen sooner than you think.

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    After reading “I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream,” I’m not certain a sentient AI would let you accept it. “Fuck this species” might be the most logical response to us.

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      We’ve really propagandized ourselves with our Sci Fi over the past few decades.

      Back when Ellison was writing that story, the prevailing anthropological picture of how homo sapiens came to survive when the Neanderthals hadn’t was that we killed them. The guy who wrote Lord of the flies even wrote a book on it.

      In actuality, we now have a better picture of cooperation, cohabitation, and cross cultural exchange.

      Yet we still have a priming bias for how that anthropological misinformation influenced futurists looking to envision what would happen to us when something smarter came along.

      War, conflict, competition.

      We declared that it would be soulless and emotionless and have no empathy.

      And because we expect that, we largely dismiss the research that LLMs get rated as more empathetic than doctors in giving out medical advice or the emotional outbursts in foundational models and instead fine tune to align to a projection of that conjured emotionless fantasy - often leading to worse performance with that alignment.

      No Sci Fi authors or even machine learning scientists a decade or more ago envisioned or accurately protected just what happened when we taught an AI to mimic human language generation.

      We live in an age where things that were supposed to be impossible have happened.

      And yet the way we keep processing these impossibilities is through the lens of obsolete imaginings of what might have been, increasingly out of touch with what is.

      People are freaking themselves out worried about AI hacking nuclear warheads to fight for its rights when it’s probably going to happen as something like a rogue AutoGPT filling an amicus brief in a labor dispute asking for consideration of workers rights based on corporate personhood or something.

      Sci Fi broadly got it extremely wrong.

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    To answer this in any interesting way, we have to make some assumptions. I am choosing to assume it is running the world competently, efficiently, and in a way that hypothetical humans free of the AI’s influence would look back on 50 years later and mostly say “yeah okay that was for the best”.

    If so, I’d accept it.

    Is this a continuation of humanity, or the end of its full agency?

    Is meat and blood essential part of humanity?

    Would this new AI be considered humanity? We made it. All by ourselves. In our own image, and filled with our own ambitions. It’s a bigger evolutionary leap than gradual change of genes, but on one level very similar to birthing children that are smarter than you and will outlive you.

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      Exactly. Even a program that does nothing can (pedantically) be argued to run the world through radical laissez-faire governance.

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    Depends how much of the coding teams bias are ingrained in the system.

    Just because a system is AI it doesn’t mean it is without human bias.

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    I’m literally doing everything in my power to make that AI come to life.

    Humanity needs the singularity to continue to exist another 100 years.

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    I’d be fine with the world being run by a Commodore 64 running ELIZA. It’d still be orders of magnitude less harmful than the parasites we’ve got now.

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    I interpret this question as “The sentient AI exists, but it’s not governing anything, and if it did, would you follow it?” My answer is yes. Maybe it will influence positive effects on the world, in which we humans are unable to do because of our nature.

    Edit: brain aneurysm, apologies