Deezer is owned by a Russian oligarch close to Putin AFAIK. That would disqualify it from this list in my opinion
Just learned about this from this other post if someone wants more details:
https://lemmy.world/post/33642043
Shame, more competition with Spotify would be a good thing.
Qobuz? High quality music. Family plans. Music purchases and audio file downloads. Gift cards!
And curated playlists rather than AI slop.
It comes with a music migration tool as well to transfer all your playlists.
Yeah, except that I deleted my Spotify account before making the switch and lost all my playlists. :(
I’m sure there are some public playlist you used to like that you can migrate. Or have shared playlists with friends that have copied them over into their account.
Yeah, the one playlist I missed I had shared with friends. Just haven’t bothered them about it yet :)
I generally listen more to albums than playlists though, so playlists don’t make all that much of a difference.
Wtf, first time I heard this
Still better than using american services.
Coincidentally an American investment fund owns ~42% of the company and is the single largest stakeholder. Many would say that qualifies this as an American service.
Ok tankie
(Better to use something truly decentralised!)
Truly decentralized music streaming? 🏴☠️
Aye, I’d love that. A Napster 2.0, if you will.
subsonic, potentially
Isn’t it fun to look into companies and suddenly realize they’re all shit!?
Spotify: actually a Swedish company, but one of the worst companies out there. I hate Apple but at least they are paying artists better. Spotify actively supports scammers (with AI music and phone farms) and breaks the law by promoting artists connected to their stakeholders.
Deezer is owned by a Russian oligarch who funds the US republican party.
Don’t know about the rest. But as far as I know there are no music streaming services with a moral compass.
Psst, you might like resonate
We are currently pausing new signups in order to work on our system.
Sad face… I’ll keep an eye on it, thanks!
But they are not USA, we have a war to win!
Is Spotify owned in large part by US média companies nowadays ?
Edit: I guess Jamendo is a streaming service in a way. And also I think Tidal was supposed to be pro artist or whatever. It’s American though I think.
Avoid infomaniak. Company is anti anonimity, CEO said only criminals want it. As a result they are supporting the anti encryption laws coming to Switzerland.
Ew.
I switched from Dropbox to Nextcloud, saved a bunch of money and couldn’t be happier. It’s fantastic open source software. I don’t understand why it’s rarely listed in these guides.
Under my Nextcloud provider (Murena - not the cheapest, but they develop my phone OS so I figured I can support them) I also have OnlyOffice running on the cloud, which is great for co-authoring. And I also get e-mail there of course, though I mostly use e-mail from my web-hosting provider. I think Nextcloud also has video conferencing.
For search I use Qwant for now. I like that they’re slowly developing their own index, yet they are less puritan than Mojeek so the results are a bit more reliable. Haven’t heard of Karma before.
IONOS is also a great Nextcloud provider. Can highly recommend.
generally a good idea to get off of streaming and cloud services for things you can do locally
better security, better for the environment
all the worst companies want you streaming and using cloud services with them, just don’t
Jellyfin servers for your movies and tv shows is the way to go!
How’d you obtain the movies in the first place?
You can rip them from blurays.
I don’t run a jellyfin server (yet), but a lot of people torrent their media by using a bunch of arr tools (Sonarr, Radar, Prowlarr, etc.) to do it I guess. So basically sail the high seas with some tools, download Jellyfin on a device (or set a proper server) and you’re set to have your own media streaming.
How is e.g. streaming from a Jelyfin server better for the environment than e.g. from Netflix? Genuine question? Like, to use Jellyfin you still have to download an entire movie or episode from somewhere, and you’re more likely to download things you don’t end up watching. The only benefit is if you rewatch episodes or movies, but that’s pretty rare and having enough hard-drive space for all of that is probably worse than just streaming it from a centralised location.
Plus Netflix, et al benefit from economies of scale that would probably make their streaming better than you just downloading.
Especially if they still put CDN caches in ISPs…
That said I still self-host tvs and movies as much as possible
Weird how the chart just prioritizes other corporations and only shows true open-source or self-hosted solutions when there are no non-US options realistically. Hmm.
What are the missing open-source alternatives ? I dont think there is anything like a open-source Netflix for example.?
This is an ad made by infomaniak to promote their products. OP, are you affiliated with them?
Be careful, Tuta does not support IMAP/POP3, and you’ll have to use their own client.
Wow, thanks for mentioning this, I’m seriously looking at moving away from gmail, and Tuta was my frontrunner. Sad that they aren’t more upfront about this… I see Proton is kind of the same to some extent, but then they have a local bridge application which translates their protocol to IMAP/SMTP. Does anyone have experience with that?
I don’t know about that but swiss privacy law is about to get so terrible that I wouldn’t switch to it unless they rebase.
Every mail service has a drawback
Posteo can’t do custom domains
Mailbox.org has non-anonymous registration + tracking
Proton is based in Switzerland with horrible incoming privacy laws
Nubo is a startup and unproven security-wise
Tuta doesn’t allow 3rd party clients
Startmail has no calendar
Thanks for the heads-up about the Swiss laws. I currently use kolabnow which is Swiss, but I don’t know if I hate the changes enough to go through the hassle of the switch.
Unless i’m mistaken Proton has just announced they will be leaving Switzerland for Germany.
I’ve been using Proton Bridge for over a year and it works really well - lets me use Thunderbird and my phone’s native mail app wihout issues, just remember to keep the bridge app running on your computer.
Don’t use proton if you want to use the normal protocols. I made the error and have just finished getting away a few months ago my recommendation is mailbox.org, really happy with that one.
I have a ProtonVPN subscription, but I think you need to pay for the more expensive tiers, cause the tier I have (VPN Plus 4$/month) gives me complementary mail, but I can’t use the mail bridge as it’s not paid. I think you need the Proton Mail or Proton Unlimited plan to be able to use mail bridge. Proton Unlimited gives you everything (VPN, Mail, Calendar, Drive, Pass, and Wallet). Basically if you just want mail bridge, buy Mail pass, but if you want Mail and more, buy unlimited.
Mailbox.org is what I use, it supports POP3/IMAP (I use it via Thunderbird) and is very cheap, the light package is about 1€ a month for 2GB, 3 aliases (I use anonaddy for free aliases instead), and apparently video conferencing. The Standard package is 2.5€/month with a yearly payment, more storage and gives you cloud storage, online office, custom domain aliases, and uses OpenTalk for conferences.
Not sure recommending Swiss services is a particularly great idea from a privacy perspective right now.
They should be avoided if you care about privacy.
The Lemmy icon is not very descriptive for those who do not know Lemmy.
That’s what I was just thinking. People would have no idea where to start. Maybe searching for “mouse icon social network”?
Disagree with Video Streaming, pirate it instead.
Drime is also an alternative to Google Drive
Thanks mate! Posted on mastodon too
A lot of these just don’t work as an replacement.
For example?
The socials live from everyone being on them. Mail providers established a pseudo monopoly by distrusting unknown senders. Arte does not produce entertainment but edutainment. Office is dictated by your workplace. Twitch is barely viable as is for niche things like MTG. People gotta eat. You must use the search engine that enables you to be your most productive self in a work environment.(Desk jobs only, I guess, but I ain’t got a real job where I don’t know whether I see my home again when leaving for work)
I think you’re mixing up “they don’t work as a replacement” with “they don’t work as well as a replacement”. I’m sure you know the difference because Lemmy doesn’t have all the niche communities as Reddit so Lemmy isn’t as good of a replacement, but it is a replacement because otherwise you wouldn’t be here.
Reddit don’t work on mobile anymore. Lemmy is better for me.
So you set individual preferences accepting certain pros and cons.
The claim “doesn’t work as a replacement” hence only is inside your criteria.
Regarding the “social live”, lets be real there is hardly anything social about Instagram aside from forwarding memes to your friends, which you can do in any messenger app. Regarding mail providers, the medium ones are not affected by the distrusting problems. Regarding office, you can switch for anything outside the office. I also have to use MS at work. At home i run LibreOffice and don’t pay any more money to MS. Same for searches, where i definitely use search engines more at home than at work. But even at work you can get reliable results from other search engines.
Lets be real, how often do your searches end up being a shortcut to the specific page on the same half a dozen websites? You are a programmer? Chance is most of your search results you click will be stackoverflow, w3school or similar. Most people will have Wikipedia articles among the top 5 they click on after searching. Just going to wikipedia directly is perfectly viable.
I know why you’re getting downvoted.
But sorry people, Spotify is streets ahead of the others (IMO) as there is a far better choice of music. For me anyway, YMMV but I’ve given up with the others.
Same with video streaming - you cannot deny that the quality (technical and production, if not content) of Apple TV surpasses the others. I gave up with Foundation and Silo (plots) but the quality was superb. For All Mankind is probably the best thing ever on TV after The Expanse.
iCloud is just so polished and seamless. I gave up with Proton Drive as it was just too clunky and flaky. And that’s after being a paid up Protoneer since almost day one. I still use Protonmail, Pass and VPN. Am just on a lower paid tier than I was before. Plus Vivaldi uses Proton for VPN.
I’m all for buying European where possible, (German bier, French and Italian wine, CachyOS or Mint) but am not going to wear a hair shirt and accept second or third rate performance because the internet says ‘America Bad!’
am not going to wear a hair shirt
For anybody like me who was entirely confused by that sentence:
A hair shirt is a coarse garment intended to be worn next to the skin, keeping the wearer in a state of discomfort and constant awareness of the shirt’s presence. Such garments were traditionally worn by some Christian religious orders, along with individuals who felt penitent about certain actions or their lifestyles. Their use is fairly limited in the modern era, but the term is often used metaphorically, which is why someone might refer to “wearing a hair shirt” when they perform some other act of self-imposed penitence.
I switched to Qobuz and I like it much more than I liked Spotify. Only real complaint is having to use their web client in Linux.
I don’t stream, but I’m thinking of learning how to use torrents. More ethical than Apple or Amazon.
I had to fix some iCloud stuff for an ex, it was an absolute nightmare to deal with. I guess mileage varies. I couldn’t be happier with Nextcloud.
That said, I’m happy there are people who don’t want to sacrifice comfort on here. That’s a really good sign.
‘I switched to Qobuz and I like it much more than I liked Spotify.’ The sound quality was the best of the lot but like I say, the choice just wasn’t there.
And I never had a problem with iCloud. I had a mac.com email address from when they were first avail. I hadn’t use anything Mac since 2014 and when I picked up a used iPhone SE, everything was there when I logged in. iCloud is now avail online and all my old docs and pictures were there. All my iTunes music.
Horses for course I suppose - Never thought Tim Cook would bend the knee though :-(
I generally don’t like joining sites that require more than a username, password, and possibly an email.
Search -> Qwant.com
Is it good though?
i get great results with it. ymmv