• HipPriest@kbin.social
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    1 year ago

    I do hope this works to stop kids developing/continuing nic habits. Environmental reasons as well of course but really ever since juul came out teen vaping has been ignored instead of dealt with.

    However, I can’t help but think of the days at my school of us smoking and hope kids won’t just take that up instead - luckily it costs a bomb these days so they probably can’t afford it (no idea what disposables cost but guessing not as expensive as proper cigarettes!)

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      1 year ago

      I definitely agree with you about not making it attractive to kids. But vaping has increased by less than smoking has decreased. Kids who would otherwise experiment with cigarettes use vapes instead. Kids who got hooked on smoking use vapes to quit.

      It’s not an easy balance to strike. I’m not saying we should encourage kids to vape! But it’s important not to lose sight of the prize. It’s a much better option than smoking, and less addictive too.

      For the avoidance of doubt, of course disposables should be banned. On environmental grounds alone but also because they’re designed and marketed as impulse purchases for kids.

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        1 year ago

        As a teacher, my concern is that our school went from a small group of about 10 smokers, to now just about every kid has a fancy colourful and flavourful disposable vape. It is crazy the sheer number of them. And the number of smokers has dropped significantly in the last 10 years as well.

        I don’t know if replacing the small number of smokers in the school for a huge number of vaping children is better, if I’m honest. The amount of them that are addicted to nicotine and energy drinks now is really quite scary.

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        1 year ago

        Kids who got hooked on smoking use vapes to quit.

        I’m not so sure about this. I don’t have any sources but anecdotally it seems like a lot of kids have leaped into vaping without having ever smoked and have got nicotine habits. It began whenever Juul started marketing themselves as wanting to be the ‘ipod of vaping’ long ago and specifically targeted young people in the advertising despite what they might have said

        Before then it wasn’t a thing - it was adults who had found a way to stop smoking and were being left to do it in peace. I’ll be proper annoyed if all this leads to me not being able to vape anymore because nothing else worked stopping me smoking. It’s the lesser of two evils by a very long shot.

        Imo you should have responsible licensed vape shops that sell these things, and I’d be fine with plain packaging - most of the stuff I get is pretty much in plain packaging already from vpz.

        But if they ban disposables there’s going to be an opening for a black market for dodgy stuff full of even more rubbish. Frankly, they should have done something about this a long time ago

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      1 year ago

      As much as I hate disposable vapes I don’t believe they should be banned as long as cigarettes are not.

      One will fall back tonthe other if ine is banned.

      I do wish they both get banned as they are polluting the earth and damaging health for no good reasons.

      Disclaimer I am Canadian and do vape (refillable vape mod) I used to smoke up to 50 cigarettes a day. I wish I was capable of stopping vape now but it’s hard.