• Wilco@lemm.ee
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    “I’m afraid it was the MORmons. Yes, the MORmons were the correct answer.” –The Director of Hell (Southpark)

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      That’s the first place my mind went, as well.

      What’s hilarious is that in another episode, Satan asked God to accept Saddam Hussein into heaven so he could know true eternal torment living with the Mormons.

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    Zororo hasn’t stopped the souls coming in to obliterate.
    Must be the highlight of it’s day.

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      The Christian god eats souls. The more chaste you are during life, the more energy he obtains. That’s why he started the religion.

      The light you see after death is like an angler fish, guiding you to your consumption.

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          The Christian god tells his followers to push the religion onto as many as possible and punish those who don’t believe.

          Source: history and current events.

          If god wanted his followers to believe quietly, he’d have written his book differently. I have to assume, since he’s perfect and all knowing, that the outcome was the goal. Otherwise he’s a HUGE screw up.

          Yes yes, free will. But god knows about free will, and still chose to write the book the way he did. So he intended the outcome that exists.

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            1 Take care not to practice your righteousness in the sight of people, to be noticed by them; otherwise you have no reward with your Father who is in heaven.

            2 So when you give to the poor, do not sound a trumpet before you, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and on the streets, so that they will be praised by people. Truly I say to you, they have their reward in full. 3 But when you give to the poor, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, 4 so that your charitable giving will be in secret; and your Father who sees what is done in secret will reward you.

            5 And when you pray, you are not to be like the hypocrites; for they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and on the street corners so that they will be seen by people. Truly I say to you, they have their reward in full. 6 But as for you, when you pray, go into your inner room, close your door, and pray to your Father who is in secret; and your Father who sees what is done in secret will reward you

            —Matthew 6:1–6

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              Sure, that’s what the book says. But that’s not the actions the book produces. And an all knowing God would know the outcome of the words he chose.

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              Very easy to cherry pick when you ignore the book of Joshua and Deuteronomy. Which include genocide, enslavement, ethnic cleansing and other atrocities, all committed by direct order of that deity.

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            There are some rather stark differences between the old and new testament depictions of God. The only two ways to reconcile the differences imo are that either Jesus led a pretty standard major-religion-themed-psychedelic-“love”-cult or that the Gnostics were on to something about this reality being a prison created by a divine abomination and that Jesus was trying to save us from the OT “God”.

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              That’s an old school Gnostic interpretation, and that in part lead to the development of Christian antisemitism. (See Reuther, Faith and Fratricide)

              You’re missing out on the hundreds of years of Jewish scholars navigating and interacting with the text. It’s easy to understand the shift as discrete, because Jesus is a clear breaking point, but a lot of that develops from Greek philosophy interacting with Judaism. He was most assuredly influenced by Nazarite thinkers too.

              Keep in mind too that Jesus said he brought not peace, but a sword. Jewish understandings of the messiah at the time were seeking a military type leader to lead them against the Romans - that threat is probably what actually got the man crucified. Read Luke 22:36.

              Seeing these kinds of r/atheism versus Christian conversations is always a shit show. Everyone is wrong.

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            Or there is no god and the cunts running this religious sharade benefit from adding as many sheep’s under them as possible and are using religion as an excuse

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              Why represent the idea of God as truth if it really all comes down to personal headcanon?

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                Because if morality is dictated by God, and God is whatever you want, you can justify literally anything.

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                  Easy, because most people do. Be it by indoctrination of their children, justification of atrocities, or by feeling self righteous, it is almost always a tool of coercion.

                  And people who think they’re above of it all, and who think their lukewarm faith is the answer, are disgusting to the creature they claim to serve, as per the Book of Revelation, chapter 3, verses 15-16.

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            That’s true, but in fairness all of humanity bears that legacy. The crusaders weren’t doing what they did just because of Christianity, it was because they were humans, doing what humans always do.

            People in power have always used religion as a tool to further their own ends. It’s true throughout history, it’s still true today.

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          Why’s he being downloaded he’s the sensible one, probably all the other shitty Christians down voting him lol

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              Personally, because I take offense at anyone who proudly worships the creature who killed tons of babies and kids, just for being the firstborn of a culture and not taking in the religion of another group just for being the correct one, imposing rules on a whim and turning those who failed into salt, testing faith by asking someone to kill their child, burning up cities because it disagreed with with how some of the people in it lived, and many other atrocities.

              But more to the point, because I think it is disgusting to worship a creature so powerful and stubborn that after so much interference, now allegedly just says “I’m a hands off parent now, I don’t care if you poke your eye out, commit Holocaust or poison and kill men, women and children by pretending to be acting in my name, I’ll just judge you after you die, k, tks, bye”

              You claim to be against the sins that form the basis of your religion, and I respect that, but one can’t turn a blind eye to what the scriptures say.

              With love, a former seminarian.

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      this is the source of a lot of my existential dread. I can’t logically refute it, at most I can acknowledge it’s pointless for me to worry about, but I can’t stop myself from worrying about maltheism.

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        Any supposed supreme deity who hinges the eternal fate of their own supposed creations on a wild ass guess isn’t one that is worthy of worship, adoration, or even basic respect. If a being with the sum total knowledge and foresight of literally everything can’t devise a better system that any random ass person off the street, I wouldn’t worry about it.

        They either don’t exist at all, or they do and everyone is fucked because we exist in the playground of omnipotent super beings that are somehow also absurdly stupid. One of those outcomes is more likely than the other. I think you know which one it is.

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        That’s one of the reasons I like 40k. “God is real and he hates us” is a central theme. Sure it’s edgelord material but its also a fun thought experiment. For me. I can see why it would upset you though.

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    Al hail the great ZORORO

    May they blast me into sweet oblivion of nothingness as soon as I die, existence isn’t for me.

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    Well, he gave his best shot. Next time he might try a more rigorous vetting system rather than just picking the most popular one in his home town.

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    Total obliteration seems more merciful than the eternal torment promised by Christianity.