Earlier on Thursday, Rolling Stone published allegations from two current and 14 former employees, including production crew and writers, who requested anonymity out of fear of retaliation. Rolling Stone claimed they had approached an additional 80 current and former employees, but “not a single one agreed to speak on the record or had positive things to say about working on the Tonight Show”.
According to Rolling Stone’s report, multiple sources alleged Fallon had a history of “outbursts” and lashing out at staff when under pressure; that previous senior staff on the show had bullied and belittled them; and that guests’ dressing rooms were commonly known as “cry rooms”, where employees could go let out their stress.
Nine showrunners have worked on the Tonight Show since Fallon took over from Jay Leno in 2014; a much faster turnover than comparable late night shows like Late Night with Seth Meyers and The Late Show With Stephen Colbert.
They should have given it to Conan when they had the chance but they keep insisting on giving it to soulless narcissists like Leno and Fallon.
This, Conan has always been infinitely funnier, and he still has employees that followed him from the Late Night show that seem to love working with him
so much love for Conan. I’ve only seen a few clips, I’ll have to seek him out a bit.
ok I just watched this and he’s actually great: https://youtu.be/FIHxrzOQtm0
They did give it to Conan, then they gave it back to Jay. Like everything else wrong in my life, I blame the boomers.
Oooh yes, they did Conan sooo dirty during that clusterfuck.
Fuckin boomers
I love the single downvote… “god damn kids…” grumble, grumble
Unpopular opinion: Conan SUCKS and is not funny. His personal antics are downright cringey middle school level drek.
Yeah, not everyone like all types of humor. By actually having a personality and a distinct sense of humor he opens himself up to not being liked.
Unlike the charismatic black holes of Falcon and Leno that are just there and fills time until the inevitable heat death of the universe.
At least Leno was an ok interviewer and (at least based on his post tonight shown life) seems not to be a dick.
Fallon is SUCH a bad interviewer, it is incredibly grating.
Leno on the Tonight Show was just a rotating parade of shills. It was devoid of any soul, community, or any emotion really.
I’ve always gotten strong Ellen vibes from Fallon.
I never understood how this unfunny douchebag got famous. Are people really fans of him or was having him TWO shows purely a studio decision? He was never funny on SNL.
I thought maybe it was just me, maybe I wasn’t seeing something in ‘slow jam the news’ that was hilariously funny. But then he sucked up to Trump during the campaign in 2016 and I didn’t give a fuck any more. Fuck him.
Jimmy Fallon is all that awkwardness of Nathan Fielder minus the intent or semblence of humor. He is the most boring, lame host I have ever seen on a show like this and I find him painful to watch.
Hence his prime spot. That’s why he’s famous. He’s milquetoast, he’s lowest common denominator, he’s white bread, he’s Big Bang Theory, hes Two and a Half Men, he’s a laugh track, he’s Jay Leno.
I haven’t asked everyone I know or anything but I’ve yet to meet someone who I know likes Jimmy Fallon.
I think he’s way, way, WAYYY worse than Leno, though. At least he leads a somewhat interesting life (albeit not interesting to me). Like I would be surprised to hear that Jimmy Fallon has any hobbies.
I don’t know anyone who likes big bang theory. But it’s the most popular show (or at least it was at some point). But there are sort of…layers/circles in which different types of people remain. The “Big Bang Theory” types hang out together, talk on Facebook, still use Reddit and mainly just subscribe to r/aww and r/funny, they go out to eat at the olive garden after church…that type of thing. Then there are the non-BBT types, that find a suitable instance on Lemmy and discuss how it’s possible people like jimmy fallon lol
I know somebody who loves the big bang theory. Legitimately. Small town conservative guy. I don’t have much good to say about him.
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I don’t disagree with anything you said, at all, but do feel the need to point out during all 3 you mentioned (Farley, Hartman and Hader) all had absolutely crazy good writers on SNL at the time as well, who were exceptional at using the talent offered. I think back to Hader doing Stefon and it was Mulany writing those, and always changing the script to make Hader break. Things like that.
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Will Farrell funny either, though from what I’ve heard his success is largely in his ability to get people motivated, so you see a lot of good films with unfunny Farrells, where Farrell is the reason why it’s funny, but it’s not obvious because Farrell himself isn’t.
I came to this conclusion too! always considered Will Farrell to be unfunny.
But I think he has like a “funny aura boost”. Because when he’s in a movie, it feels like the whole staff is having a lot more fun and are looser. And that makes the whole film more enjoyable.
Not sure, I’ve never watched him. I don’t really watch late shows that much lately, but I’ve enjoyed content from Last Week Tonight, Seth, Colbert, Jon Stewart when he was host of Daiky Show, and yes, Trevor Noah’s show roo (I’ve heard people lambasting him as being Neoliberal, which probably is true, but I liked how they had some angles based on black people. Same with Seth’s jokes Seth can’t tell for black and lesbian stuff). Of those I probably liked Last Week Tonight the most.
The others can be charming sometimes even in ways that’s not inherently funny, but more like hamming it up (Colbert and Seth).
I’ve never found a clip of Fallon that made me want to watch.
Totally. I said the same thing when someone posted a thread about his behavior yesterday. I got a real asshole sense from him.
Even off camera he just gives off a vibe of having an insatiable need for attention
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I’d start watching non-streaming TV again if Ferguson came back.
I miss Craig
Conan was awesome and I thought it couldn’t get any better. But then came Craig and he was in a league of his own. He reinvented the genre and nobody was able to copy him since.
It was a privilege to have lived through and watch both of them in their prime.
I haven’t even seen him since he left his show. What is he even doing now? Just enjoying retirement? I mean he deserves it, but I miss him too.
I have no idea. He did like one Netflix comedy special after leaving the show but that was so long ago.
I think he’s said he never wanted the earlier time slot because the network would be too involved with the show.
“Tonight Show with Craig Ferguson” would just be like what Tonight Show has been for many decades with just the few flourishes here and there that the network would allow Ferguson to do.
With the 12:30 slot he could do whatever he wanted, the network didn’t care. Which is what made his show the best talk show of all time.
“I’m sorry (this got out).”
Guy is fake af, never understood the appeal of him or his show.
Absolutely… And his obnoxious fake laughs are straight up nauseating…
I feel vindicated for strongly disliking him since SNL. Deuche bag ruined every single skit he was in. Absolute amateur laughing in every skit. Every time.
That was the best thing about SNL at the time, to me, lol
I’m to the point where I just assume if you’re a celebrity you’re probably a piece of shit.
I think that’s a very safe assumption based on all the examples we’ve seen.
It’s almost like living a life where you are mostly isolated from reality, have to be isolated from the public for logistics reasons, and only have contact with people whose entire existence is to make you happy turns you into an asshole. And most celebrities are people who actively sought out that lifestyle, which means they started out with an inclination towards being an asshole.
You made Keanu sad.
And Tom Hanks.
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Jimmy Fallon is a robot designed to laugh at people’s jokes no matter how unfunny they are.
Jimmy Fallon was a “safe” bet by NBC execs during the Leno/Conan arguments.
It’s a stupid bet.
Fallon is one of the least funny people on the planet. I am not joking. His shit keeps getting brought up on my YouTube feed and it is just utter crap.
The only time I had to laugh at something he was involved in, was when he made a crossover with John Oliver. Fallon obviously tried to advertise for Amazons Alexa, when Oliver suddenly asked Alexa about the working conditions in Amazon Warehouses. Fallon immediately shit himself.
Not trying to defend Jimmy Fallon, but is there a way to do a nightly television show for years on end that’s healthy?
The constant demand to be fresh, funny, topical, appeal to advertisers, network execs and audience members. It’s fucking insane how anyone can do it at all.
I’d imagine it takes it’s toll on even the most level headed good people.
Most of the story might be construed as nothing but the show runner turn over raised red flags for me. Conan had the same show runner, Jeff Ross, for decades. Fallon can’t keep a show runner for a year! On the Tonight Show! One of the most coveted show runner positions still left in Television. The fact that the most powerful people aside from fallon keep quietly leaving the show means to me that there is something rotten that they are all fleeing and keeping quite to protect their careers.
Conan seems to be well-regarded.
This is hilarious if you’ve ever worked in Hollywood: An NBC spokesperson told the magazine: “As in any workplace, we have had employees raise issues; those have been investigated and action has been taken where appropriate. As is always the case, we encourage employees who feel they have experienced or observed behaviour inconsistent with our policies to report their concerns so that we may address them accordingly.”
report their concerns so that we may address them accordingly
Which means they will fire that person and make sure they never work in the industry again. That sounds like a cliche you hear in movies, but if you know people who work in Hollywood you know that it’s a real thing.
And we always tell them, you can be honest. Don’t worry, we won’t “retaliate”
But why the quotes?
Oh, just for emphasis that we absolutely will “not retaliate or fire you immediately and spread rumors about you”
It’s suspicious that this has gone on for years, but the story is only being published now. Seems to have been common knowledge in Hollywood. Is it contract negotiation time? Did Fallon finally piss of the wrong person? Does NBC have someone already in mind to replace him?
Maybe the alcohol rumors are true and getting to be more of an issue?
Not surprised, never could stand that guy.
I don’t hate him. Don’t like him. I never found him as funny as Jimmy Fallon did either
Who could?
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Jimmy Fallon? Isn’t that the failed Andy Samburg?
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I want to downvote you because I like Samburg but “Andy Samburg is the failed Andy Samburg” made me laugh. :(
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Can’t someone spell his last name correctly?
