• Solumbran@lemmy.world
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    Musk saying he wants his internet to be used for peaceful thing is pretty funny considering the direction of twitter, and his overall points of view, let alone his blatant disregard for the health and safety of his employees.

    I guess peace is another of the words that change depending on the situation, for musk.

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        I think that was the point for a lot of people. I certainly was one of them as well, he really revealed to the world he was a petty little shit.

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      We all used to shit our pants, so don’t judge yourself too harshly. At least you’ve learned from this mistake more quickly. (I assume.)

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      Unfortunately, because we’re not at war with Russia it can’t count as treason, but there’s a whole host of other laws he violated so they could definitely get him on something.

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            Actually, subverting the foreign policy of the United States is actually a form of treason.

            Like, you can say “I think we should trade with Cuba”

            You cannot provide funding to a company that ships aid to Cuba. That is illegal, and actually a form of treason.

            What Musk did is the latter. He saw a geopolitical situation the state department was handling, and inserted himself and his company into it. Up to thst point is fine. But then he inserted himself into the decision-making process of US strategic command because we was a vendor to the government.

            If you supply rockets to send up satellites, the time to object is before you agree and load payloads to send up satellites. Not during or after.

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              You cannot provide funding to a company that ships aid to Cuba. That is illegal, and actually a form of treason.

              Illegal yes, treason no.

              Treason has a very specific definition in US law and almost nothing counts without a declaration of war or declaring a group an enemy of the state.

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        It’s funny cause the reply had “celebrating or praising violence” as it’s second bullet point. Pretty sure if you don’t interpret “gasthejews6969” as celebrating or praising violence you’re kind of fucking retarded.

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          Yes, they’re different. Ukraine needed Starlink to defend itself. I don’t think Gasthejews6969 has a valid self defense claim and only advocated for ethnic cleansing, which historically has proven to be quite successful.

          But I do love that you defend Gasthejews6969. Tells everyone who you are.

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              You claim Gasthejews6969 is harmless, merely joking about genocide of jewish people. He, among many other on Twitter, are spreading genocidal rhetoric, be it against Jews, Ukrainians or some other ethnic group. Civilized countries criminalize such behavior recognizing measurable harm that they cause. Nazi propagandist have been tried and found guilty as well.

              Twitter is being used to kill people, Musk is fine with that. It’s entirely comparable, but the comparison looks damning for Musk and anyone who defends him.

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      Then don’t enter into a contract at all with a nation at war to supply their military with Internet. They basically pulled the rug out from under Ukraine here which is way worse than just not supplying Internet in the first place.

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      “I think not wanting something you created to be used to kill defend people against genocide is fine” there, fixed that for you.

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          Musk seeking the contract and providing starlink certainly isn’t but the broader concept of not providing a good or service of benefit to one side in a conflict is emblematic of non-interventionism. The most true incarnation of non interventionism in this kind of situation would have been to never get involved in the first place.

          I’m in no way implying musk isn’t and idiot without consistent guiding principles or beliefs.