• 👁️👄👁️@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    You do get a say in safety, there are very harsh laws if companies get reported not following safety measures. I think everyone is asking for more pay lol, but that has nothing to do with democracy. You only should have a say for so much, there are many things that only those with certain education should have a say. Because again, it’s not a country.

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      1 year ago

      there are many things that only those with certain education should have a say.

      The rich are not smarter than us!

      asking for more pay lol, but that has nothing to do with democracy

      Getting more pay often requires democratic actions. Striking, unionizing. Unions democratize a workplace by providing leverage behind workers concerns.

      there are very harsh laws if companies get reported not following safety measures.

      You must not be American. From an American perspective, employers are basically lawless.

      The eventual theoretical climax being siezing the means of production. Then there is no longer an owner or board of shareholders with structural heirarchical control over what is made, who makes it, and how much they are paid.

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        1 year ago

        Education does not mean rich. There’s still a workplace hierarchy in socialism, and even communism. Of course America is brought up for no reason lol. You don’t understand what you’re talking about, and that’s not even true.

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        You must not be American. From an American perspective, employers are basically lawless.

        I can tell that you have never dealt with an OSHA inspection. Like all things government, most of the rules make sense, some of them don’t, and some things should be covered but aren’t. It still breaks my brain that propane gas tank forklifts used indoors are allowed but an audible pneumatic hose leak supposedly isn’t.

        I have seen Cleatus scream about how they can’t run their line because they hear a hose leak and use the forklift to drive to the break room. Sigh.