Did the buttons really need renaming? It’s not like options and share or + and - make any more sense
For the switch, plus and minus have a symbolic benefit of matching their position on the console itself when the joycons are detached. It’s not significant enough to warrant the rename but it at least is more than just a rename.
I get being nostalgic for Start/Select but how does Options/Share not make more sense? The options button brings up a menu of options for most games and share allows you to share screenshots or video from the game. Whereas start did the same thing options does now which has nothing to do with the word Start and Select was sorta a catch all button for an action you only used occasionally, but was never used for selecting which was usually X but sometimes one of the other shapes.
Options I kinda get but it sounds dumb to me, would’ve been better as “menu” because it’s not exclusively for options, also for pausing and other menus.
Share isn’t what that button normally does at all in my mind, sure maybe PlayStation have it bound to that but normally it brings up an alternate menu to start that isn’t the pause menu (like in Minecraft and overwatch it brings up player list/scoreboard as an example
A lot of games I believe use it for the map too
I haven’t played Overwatch or Minecraft but every game I’ve played with one of those options used pressing in the touchpad to do that. I’ve never played a game where the share button didn’t share somehow.
I just looked it up and for Minecraft it’s used to take a screenshot or bring up a screenshot menu. I couldn’t find anything for Overwatch though. Are you sure you didn’t remap the button? Or are you using it for PC? It might work different in that case.
I do agree that menu would’ve been a better name, but that doesn’t mean that Options doesn’t make more sense than Start which is what the original comment said.
I was thinking of java edition Minecraft which I now realize I made my own configuration for
Still, not sure where I’ve got it from but I’ve definitely got the idea the select button is for menus that aren’t the start menu
The traditional role of the Select button is actually handled via the D-pad in most games. It was the button you used to change your selection, not to actually select something (that would be done with Start.)
Of course, even in the NES era past the first couple of years menus could generally be navigated with the D-pad, so even then Select was pretty useless, which is probably why the Genesis didn’t bother with it.
Start and Select for life. SNES was my first gamepad.
Brother
My nephew was so confused when I kept telling him to press “Select” when we played on a PS5.
You must teach the boy the old ways.
Yeah, same. I actually forget the name of the button, too, so when I give someone the controller so they can play and they ask “how do I open the menu?” I’ll say “oh press start. It’s not called start actually but you know press the button that looks like it should be called start.”
Everytime I start up Burnout: Paradise Remastered it tells me to hit Options to start the game. No! It’s Start to start!
Blasphemy
Could we take the guy who put a dedicated screenshot button on the controller instead of another options button and drown him in the nearest septic tank?
The touchpad is just “big select”.
I’m not sure who in the name of all fuck decided that controllers should have a dedicated Tweeting button, but I suspect this gen will be the last of that.
Same. My older SO corrects me. I won’t have any of it.
I’m sorry, are we discussing paddles?
Everywhere I look, you’re 40% of Lemmy
Just doing my part!
Like…the Atari kind? Because I’m old enough for those.
Wanna play some Combat?
But…we have two buttons right? The right one was always start and the left one was options ig? I’m an Xbox 360 player
start and select
This habit is pre Xbox 360
Start and Back, respectively. Now it’s “Menu” and “View”
…or possibly “hamburger” and “restore window to smaller size”. Because that’s logical?
So… I believe I’m old now…
*insert “I’m in this meme and I don’t like it” picture.
Hello my name MonsiuerPatEBrown, and I use two spaces after a period.
I like to think that you did it here too, even without a 2nd sentence.
Man my brain must be getting old, I just like the way it looks mang
I will always call it the start button, but to be honest, menu or options are better names for what it does.
Same, but never liked options as the name though sounds like that should be the word to replace ‘select’. Menu is an adequate replacement for ‘start’. Won’t call it that but makes sense.
Curiously enough, the “start” button is now more of a “pause” button. Sometimes also a “skip cutscene” and “open menu” button. Microsoft was into something by actually renaming it to “menu” in the Xbox, since that’s what it’s used for nowadays. Sony probably chose to call it “options” on the PS4 onwards solely to avoid being sued for plagiarism.
Should’ve gone the Nintendo route and used symbols. “+” and “-”
What are you talking about? The NES was what solidified the select/start names for me. No matter what any manufacturers call the two bottoms in the center of their controller, they will always be select and start.
What I wouldnt give for two bottoms in the center of my controller right now
They already have symbols for their face buttons, PS using symbols for start and select would make more sense than any other company
Let’s not get political now.
