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This is big. Bluesky is getting lots of traction with normies who want off Twitter. Mastodon and pleroma and pixelfed all about to become much more discoverable
We pretty much had this when the first reliable Mastodon<->Bluesky bridge came online. The Fediverse side protested and made the entire system opt-in, making it practically unusable because people that don’t have a favourite Linux distro don’t know what a fedi is and why they should bridge to it.
When this goes live, I expect people to treat it the same as every other sizeable social media joining the Fediverse, with outrange and block lists.
I dunno. I still posts from the Bluesky bridge getting boosts. This might not be as bad Threads.
You shouldn’t expect full interoperability with this alone! At most, you should expect that your public posts get shared with your followers on Mastodon (i.e. an outbox)
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Really cool honestly. How big it is is probably predicated on if Bluesky enabled it for PDS’es on bsky.social.
That’s the benefit of Bluesky being totally centralized, not built with any capability for federation: When they decide to add some, they can hardly fail to see that it’s best to go with ActivityPub.
Thats completely untrue :) .
app.wafrn.net is a separate app that connects to bluesky, atproto.africa is an alternate relay, deer.social is an alt appview.
You can use bluesky without relying on bluesky now.
Hmm, let’s see if I remember the terminology correctly:
Client apps have nothing to do with it, obviously.
Alternate appviews have nothing to do with it, except in that they’d presumably need to work with whatever form of atproto federation exists, if any did.
Alternate relays aren’t federated unless there’s some protocol for routing messages between them — such as ActivityPub.
So, bluesky works differently to fedi.
A PDS stores your posts/comments/likes/blocks/articles/whatever. These all get crawled and saved to a relay.
An appview connects to a relay and sorts through all the posts, and indexes them.
They handle all the interactions, rather than passing messages between servers.Let me just ask the less technical and more important questions:
- If BSky goes out of business and shuts down their servers, will these continue to function?
- Does BSky still have any control at all over moderation?
If bsky goes out of business and shuts down their servers, will these continue to function?
Yes, but there will be far less people since everyone’s on bsky.social. Kinda like mastodon.social.
Does bsky still have any control at all over moderation?
Great question! Bluesky has individual moderation services you can subscribe to, and these hide/label posts for you.
bsky has no control over moderation if you are not on their servers, and you are not subscribed to their moderation service.
Right… it did take me a minute to remember how the relays work. Well, when there are a few hundred of them we’ll see how it goes.
There’s a good few small ones.
It can work without relays anyway, an appview can crawl PDSes directly.
Really? I thought there were only two. How are the small ones able to afford the bandwidth to monitor everything from every PDS?
because hosting a full-network relay is super cheap, including bandwidth. there are multiple people who are running full-network relays (monitoring and relaying everything from every PDS) for less than 30USD per month
That’s why I said small ones, they don’t crawl the entire network.
There is the freeourfeeds one coming soon.
