like, it’s caffeine and water and brown, who cares. i drink diet soda so it’s no calories, no sugar. versus the stereotype starbucks order, why is soda so demonized

the whole sort of basically woo stuff about oh there’s antioxidants there which give you a 3% lower risk of skin cancer after the age of 65 like come on that doesn’t count

      • Jummit@lemmy.one
        4·
        1 year ago

        In this context I guess non-natural chemicals? Maybe the artificial sweeteners.

        • redballooon@lemm.ee
          4·
          1 year ago

          In this context may also be relevant discussions among coffee enthusiasts who talk about this and that chemical process during the brewing process, lending it a bitter or rich taste – the coffee is full of chemicals.

          I’m allergic to the word “chemicals” in discussions such as this, because it is too vague to define anything specific. It generally is used as a degradation of a thing that the speaker doesn’t like. But that’s all there is to it. The speaker can just as well say “I’m suspicious of this thing that you hold there”, and this communicates exactly the same thing, maybe with a bit more care about ones words.

          • TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz
            3·
            1 year ago

            The distinction between natural and artificial is just as arbitrary. All the “plant derived” non-sugar sweeteners taste super weird to me and some give me a headache

    • everett@lemmy.ml
      10·
      1 year ago

      I downvoted because this doesn’t feel like a casual conversation, more like trying to start an argument.

    • _number8_@lemmy.worldOP
      1·
      1 year ago

      they’re really proving my point. just this pure implicit bias for the stodgy adult drink that is functionally the same as soda - it’s liquid with caffeine

      • GONADS125@lemmy.world
        5·
        1 year ago

        You probably should’ve asked this in !NoStupidQuestions…

        The two beverages are not the same. Coffee can be served with or without milk/cream and sugar, but even with sugar, it has far less than is in soda. It also has a significantly higher quantity of caffeine.

        People aren’t downvoting you because you drink soda; it’s because you asked a dumb question with a ridiculous and blatantly incorrect take. Just drink soda and don’t worry about what other people think. There’s not some mass of people judging you. No one cares if you drink soda in the morning…

        But it’s just preposterous to be claiming they’re the same beverage or that soda is as effective as coffee at waking people up. How about milk and soda? Are they the same beverage? What about root beer and beer? Your argument is just blatantly false and silly. That’s why you’re being downvoted.

        • _number8_@lemmy.worldOP
          3·
          1 year ago

          i was under the impression that ‘casual conversation’ meant ‘not necessarily being chastized for asking a lighthearted question without literally citing sources like i’m writing a thesis’

          • Jarix@lemmy.world
            2·
            1 year ago

            You made an absolutely absurd claim. It didn’t seem like it to you, whixh is obvious now, but that was not a lighthearted comment more like it was a slap in the face.

            At least, all the people responding seem to have taken it as a challenge

      • stillwater@lemm.ee
        3·
        1 year ago

        People downvoting your question proves your point? That’s all it takes? Then what the fuck have we been wasting our time for?

        Someone, call science quick! We can save them so much time and energy if they don’t need to do all that rigorous testing anymore, they can just ask the internet and see if it gets upvoted and downvoted!

        Call the judges and cops and lawyers! They don’t need evidence or proof anymore, we can all just vote and that will prove if someone committed triple homicide clear as day on camera or not!