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8gb of system ram is enough for a low end system (especially with Linux) and 8gb of vram is enough for 1080p gaming.
Same with 8 GB of L1 cache.
Like a MacBook
The reason why people didnt like 8gb of ram on MacBooks is because they charged premium prices for laptops with 8gb. Especially since you cant upgrade the ram. My Thinkpad has 8gb of ram but if I wanted I could upgrade to 16gb.
I know lol, I was taking a pot shot at apple for exactly that reason, no excuse for the insane pricing with such a restriction on it, not to mention it’s soldered in ram lol.
Still remember my first 500MB drive, thought I would never manage to fill it up
I remember being thrilled to move from floppies to a 16mb flash drive for my school assignments, even if I did have to constantly download and reinstall the USB Mass Storage drivers for the Windows 1998 sp2 computers in the library which reset every night. And the transfer speed was SLOW.
The fact that you can get a terabyte flash drive now, which can hold 62,500 of my school assignment drives, is mind blowing to me.
I always wanted the zip drives with 250mb capacity.
Those were pretty cool. My dad had a single one in a hard plastic case, I want to say it was like 100 MB or something? I loved how chunky and solid it was.
I do feel like it’d be cool to have a storage medium that at least feels like that again. Like sliding a big hot-swappable SATA SSD into a slot and getting a satisfying “kaCHUNK” and a little busy light.
At the very least that sounds like a good use for the front slots in a modern computer case, as you said allow hot swapping and it’d be a pretty good system for games in particular.
I always thought it would be funny running an os from an usb stick.
Never would I have thought that there would be storage in the size of a stick exceeding the default configuration of a desktop pc.
2 TB in one small nvme drive?! Wtf. Amazing but also crazy.
You should check out Linux live USBs from nearly 2 decades ago then.
When my dad first saw an nvme drive he had to triple check what he was looking at BC in his old 70s computer brain there’s no fucking way something so small and unmoving can hold so much data, read/write it so fast, and all for a relatively cheap price.
Something I was able to do with my old OnePlus 3 phone, was use it as a Linux USB. It was a pretty neat trick!
It was really convenient to just snag a work laptop and boot it into Puppy Linux (which lives entirely in RAM) to browse around and such without my job looking too closely and being creepy about it.
Disclaimer
IT departments are various kinds of chill, scrutinizing, lazy, or pathologically psycho, YMMV greatly. Try at your own risk. Lol
I have an 8GB Ubuntu flash drive, so it’s certainly possible
The first hard drive I got had 20MB and it was glorious.
The first one I used was 5MB. The OS on the machine (a CP/M version) didn’t know how to handle it, so it was partitioned as lots and lots of floppies. Not very useful.
How about the other way around?
Doesn’t shit like this happen because Japan or some other country requires physical media back ups on floppy?
So I can boot up without a disk now?
Mine was 500 GB but that was in 2010.
I had a conspiracy theory that it’s trying to communicate with me using morse code, but I was too lazy to learn it
thanks Nvidia, maybe 4gb VRAM is next
What does 1GB of cache look like?
That’s a lot of cache! For a new battery :P
CPU or SSD cache?
CPU
Still god tier. Plus, it’s static RAM, which is faster than the dynamic RAM used in regular RAM sticks.
What about downloaded RAM?
Pretty sure the system would actually be FAR slower with 1GB L1 cache, the latency times would be insane. There’s a reason they are normally an order of magnitude less.
I have 3gb of VRAM.
I remember when this applied to 8kB.
RAM on phones is ok, though.
8GB of Atari 2600 games
Cannot exist as the entire collection is maybe tens of mb
is 8GB a lot?
8Gb install file? No. 8gb log file? Can be. 8Gb of customer PII dumped from your database? Absolutely
8GB of (internet) bandwidth.
8GB/s, or 8GB per month.
/s of course, hence bandwidth, not allowed traffic per month.
Generally there’s a reverse relationship between size and speed. A 8gb cache would also be super slow thus defeating the purpose of the cache. If it were so easy every cpu would have a huge cache
Not really, if you’re putting that size on the physical chip it will be fast because it’s close by. It’s just that we can’t fit that much on a chip now.
Unfortunately that’s not how it works. This is coming from someone who studied computer hardware and software in university.
Cache sizes are a trade off. Small cache means quick access speeds but higher chance of a cache miss. Larger caches have a lower access speed but a lower chance for a cache miss.
This is why we have different levels of cache on a computer actually. It allows us to harness the benefits of the different sizes of caches without impacting the speed as much. With multiple layers we can have small caches that are super fast and then larger caches that are slower and so and so forth. This way we can have both speed and size.
For one, I’m just happy to see a hardware stat that isn’t rapidly and constantly enlarging for no other reason than being incrementally released to pressure constant sales.
I mean it’s a small thing, but neat! I did wonder why cache sizes tended to stay small even between generations.
There’s nothing about being larger that makes access speed inherently slower. We just have to use cheaper technologies to improve density. CPU cache is usually SRAM, which is less dense than DRAM, but faster. 1GB of SRAM would be god tier. Even the Ryzen X3D chips only have 96MB of L3 cache, all SRAM, and those are sick.
I have an 8gb ATA storage drive on my desk… wonder if it stills works
Isn’t vram usually bigger than ram? Those pics should be switched.
EDIT: Oh, I took vram to be virtual ram, not video ram. It makes sense for video ram.
Creating your swap as 2x your RAM is outdated advice. Now it’s essentially changed to be 2x until 4GB of RAM, then 1x until 8GB, and anything over 8GB just use 4GB of swap because you probably have enough RAM. Or, even some modern systems like Fedora will swap to zRAM. Which is just a highly compressed portion of RAM.
I think that recommendation came partly due to hibernation, where the ram is dumped to disk before powering off. Today, I’d probably use a swapfile instead.
Swap files are just a file version of the swap partition. I need a 24GB swap file to hibernate.
Mine certainly isn’t. 6GB vram, 16gb ram.
It depends on your definition of “usually”, high end GPUs for data centers, AI, workstations or “enthusiasts” yea. For these applications you’re starting at like 16
GPUs for us plebs, no
Tbf, we should be starting with 16GB for gaming GPUs too, especially for those prices. But … NVidia.
But yeah, modern HPC Processors have at least 48GB or so. And max. is the AMD Mi355X with 288GB VRAM afaik. Which is actually less than my servers RAM, ha! But also probably like a thousand times fasted, considering my RAM runs at 1600 MT/s.
I’m seeing games today regularly hitting 11 GB, and that’s without raytracing or frame generation which require more VRAM.
The new 8GB GPU Nvidia just launched is a trap. It exists to trick people into buying a GPU that they’ll need to upgrade next year.
Normally you don’t even have that much virtual ram. It’s at most twice your system ram, but honestly past 8gb and you’re gonna want to start closing out of stuff.
