Thats really the fundamental problem with free speech. Letting anyone say whatever their opinion means that “Everyone” includes morons and racists (who are obviously also morons)
Not letting them have a platform means censorship. Letting them have a platform means hate speech. Tough nut to crack.
Why is it censorship? They can still talk anywhere that accepts them, including public property; that they can’t do it in my backyard isn’t censoring them.
It’s not a public forum, it’s a privately owned social media website/app…
The owners can kick anyone out they want.
Musk knew that, but apparently didn’t know why the old owners kicked them out, it’s because the vast majority of advertisers and users don’t want them their.
It’s no more public than a shopping mall. The mall and Twitter are owned by a corporation or private entity so they can kick you out for any reason. They own the space, not the government. A public space is somewhere typically owned by the government like the library, town hall, roadway, or park. A common misconception is that anywhere people can freely enter is a public space, that’s not really how it works. If you think I’m wrong, go wave a Nazi flag and cause a disturbance at a mall and see how fast they kick you out.
Everyone can say what they want, but contrary to what the MAGA idiots think, they have no right to free speech on someone else’s platform. They are free to make their own platforms and we can see from the great success of Truth Social and Parler how that works out.
What “free speech absolutist” Musk is trying to do is limit the speech of the ADL outside his platform, and to prevent them from shining a spotlight on him and the Nazi cockroaches he’s invited back to Twitter. He’s not going to convince advertisers that having their company’s name appear next to Nazi content is a good thing, and IMO his attempted bullying of the ADL is going to end up driving advertisers away instead of bringing them back. Good.
I’m sure the prospect of having your company’s name displayed alongside actual Nazi content has nothing to do with it.
Thats really the fundamental problem with free speech. Letting anyone say whatever their opinion means that “Everyone” includes morons and racists (who are obviously also morons)
Not letting them have a platform means censorship. Letting them have a platform means hate speech. Tough nut to crack.
Why is it censorship? They can still talk anywhere that accepts them, including public property; that they can’t do it in my backyard isn’t censoring them.
I think because X/Twitter is a public forum, not your backyard?
It’s not a public forum, it’s a privately owned social media website/app…
The owners can kick anyone out they want.
Musk knew that, but apparently didn’t know why the old owners kicked them out, it’s because the vast majority of advertisers and users don’t want them their.
It’s no more public than a shopping mall. The mall and Twitter are owned by a corporation or private entity so they can kick you out for any reason. They own the space, not the government. A public space is somewhere typically owned by the government like the library, town hall, roadway, or park. A common misconception is that anywhere people can freely enter is a public space, that’s not really how it works. If you think I’m wrong, go wave a Nazi flag and cause a disturbance at a mall and see how fast they kick you out.
In what sense is it public? It’s owned by X and no one else.
People want to think it’s a public forum because a lot of people use it. But that doesn’t actually make it public.
Everyone can say what they want, but contrary to what the MAGA idiots think, they have no right to free speech on someone else’s platform. They are free to make their own platforms and we can see from the great success of Truth Social and Parler how that works out.
What “free speech absolutist” Musk is trying to do is limit the speech of the ADL outside his platform, and to prevent them from shining a spotlight on him and the Nazi cockroaches he’s invited back to Twitter. He’s not going to convince advertisers that having their company’s name appear next to Nazi content is a good thing, and IMO his attempted bullying of the ADL is going to end up driving advertisers away instead of bringing them back. Good.
Not actually that tough.
Relevant, and succinct.
Nazis and dumb people vs. No Nazis and dumb people.
Hmmm.
No, no - he means he blames the ADL for making most people not like Nazis.