I love how people talk about joining a union like it’s making an order on Amazon.
If it was that easy bro probably wouldn’t be asking for help.
The reality is in a lot of cases the easier thing to do is quit and fuck everyone else.
Unions do very little to make it easier to create a new one if you are not part of one already, and even if you have the will, you also need the network, people skills, patience, money and contacts to make it work.
Okay, I have to assume you dont actually know how unions work.
Unions arent employer specific. They can be industry specific but they dont have to be.
You just put your city or the industry you work into your favorite search engine and give the first 5 pages a cursory look. Whatever seems most interesting, you do a little research about. It the impression is net positive, you join them. Most unions also have some kind of solidarity thing where people who dont have a lot dont have to pay a lot.
In return, they help you with work problems, help you find new work in some cases and even strike with you.
I am not, which I realize is a huge privilege at this point in history. I’ve gone ahead and just searched workers union in atlanta (first city that came to mind) on duckduckgo and found this: https://ufcw1996.org/
You can also join the international version of the union which i am a member of. They’re more radical and demand system change and quite large, depending on the country: https://www.iwa-ait.org/
I realize that the us has been completely gutted in terms of unions. That does not excuse not trying to join one and it is exceedingly stupid to blame anyone but the powers that be for this.
Individualizing systemic oppression is one of the largest weapons against an organized population. Making you hate your neighbor, the local soup kitchen etc for some bogus reason is what isolates people an makes them easy to manipulate.
Keep that in mind if you get frustrated with democracy inducing organizations sometimes not being perfect. “Perfection” is another bogus idea of our sick system. “Works” is what we should strive for and noting more because that means more exploitation of life.
I wish you a good read and feel free to contact me if you need help.
You are giving a perfect example of what I’m saying. Zero of your information is useful or applicable and you insist that “just do it bro” is the answer.
You apparently don’t even know unions work differently depending on the country, and yet you “educated” me as if you were giving me the secret to catgirls.
This is exactly my point. There is a disconnect between the ideologues and those privileged enough to be able to join an existing union, and the reality of the majority of workers that can’t simply “just join a union or make your own” like its ordering a meal of Uber eats.
Unions are a privilege, and we should stop acting like it’s something anyone can “just get one bro”.
You’re aware that you’re claiming things and provide no sources or proof for them, right?
Maybe lets start with trying to do the basics in debating other people. If you make a statement that is not unilaterally understandable, you back it up.
That said, your ad hominem shows me you lack the personality to survive in a union. Going after fellow workers gets you kicked out in a heartbeat. We’re one class. Divided we fall, united we stand.
Now show respect and explain if you think I’m wrong or gtfo.
I love how people talk about joining a union like it’s making an order on Amazon.
If it was that easy bro probably wouldn’t be asking for help.
The reality is in a lot of cases the easier thing to do is quit and fuck everyone else.
Unions do very little to make it easier to create a new one if you are not part of one already, and even if you have the will, you also need the network, people skills, patience, money and contacts to make it work.
Okay, I have to assume you dont actually know how unions work.
Unions arent employer specific. They can be industry specific but they dont have to be.
You just put your city or the industry you work into your favorite search engine and give the first 5 pages a cursory look. Whatever seems most interesting, you do a little research about. It the impression is net positive, you join them. Most unions also have some kind of solidarity thing where people who dont have a lot dont have to pay a lot.
In return, they help you with work problems, help you find new work in some cases and even strike with you.
Please join unions.
Are you in the US? I just tried that for my job and found exactly as many options as expected. I’ll give you 0 guesses how many it was.
I am not, which I realize is a huge privilege at this point in history. I’ve gone ahead and just searched workers union in atlanta (first city that came to mind) on duckduckgo and found this: https://ufcw1996.org/
You can also join the international version of the union which i am a member of. They’re more radical and demand system change and quite large, depending on the country: https://www.iwa-ait.org/
I realize that the us has been completely gutted in terms of unions. That does not excuse not trying to join one and it is exceedingly stupid to blame anyone but the powers that be for this.
Individualizing systemic oppression is one of the largest weapons against an organized population. Making you hate your neighbor, the local soup kitchen etc for some bogus reason is what isolates people an makes them easy to manipulate.
Keep that in mind if you get frustrated with democracy inducing organizations sometimes not being perfect. “Perfection” is another bogus idea of our sick system. “Works” is what we should strive for and noting more because that means more exploitation of life.
I wish you a good read and feel free to contact me if you need help.
You are giving a perfect example of what I’m saying. Zero of your information is useful or applicable and you insist that “just do it bro” is the answer.
You apparently don’t even know unions work differently depending on the country, and yet you “educated” me as if you were giving me the secret to catgirls.
This is exactly my point. There is a disconnect between the ideologues and those privileged enough to be able to join an existing union, and the reality of the majority of workers that can’t simply “just join a union or make your own” like its ordering a meal of Uber eats.
Unions are a privilege, and we should stop acting like it’s something anyone can “just get one bro”.
You’re aware that you’re claiming things and provide no sources or proof for them, right?
Maybe lets start with trying to do the basics in debating other people. If you make a statement that is not unilaterally understandable, you back it up.
That said, your ad hominem shows me you lack the personality to survive in a union. Going after fellow workers gets you kicked out in a heartbeat. We’re one class. Divided we fall, united we stand.
Now show respect and explain if you think I’m wrong or gtfo.