“Obviously, the great contradistinction here is Europe, where, you know, it’s like people have given up, and we — I really hope that turns around in Europe,” he added.

Europe is giving up by having ethical, human focused, and probably open source AI/and not firing all their scientists and researchers? Meanwhile the GOP is literally trying to sneak language into a spending bill banning regulation for a decade?

What a pizza shit.

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    Well because AI has been mostly hype and worthless. It has uses, but not as life changing as promised. And extremely energy intensive.

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      I think it could be life changing, but true progress will take time, like any tech. There’s a reason most scientists know you can’t just throw money at something and just make it work. That’s why technocracy and the idea of chosen elite is so fucking dumb.

      Imagine if in the 80s we had just said ok, Steve Jobs did it. We’re done here. We don’t give any outside voices or ideas in tech a chance unless Jobs gives it the ok first. Imagine how much cool shit we would have missed out on if people hadn’t just said fuck it I don’t need all that money, I’ll just make my own shit and make it work with what I have.

      Innovation and progress does not flourish in a neatly controlled box, and most people that don’t just buy other people’s work know that. That’s the real reason people started pushing for DEI. Not just bc it was the “PC” thing to do. It helps bring new perspectives which then leads to new ways of thinking and problem solving.

      If you completely isolate AI you may get some cool shit but eventually if you just buy out the entire market to fit your singular vision you get repeating/boring and stale.

      I’m pretty sure they think they’re at a point where if they just keep throwing money at it, it will just start getting creative and update itself, but when it’s as unreliable as it is, I don’t see that happening anytime soon

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    I wonder how hard it is to gather private info on Palantir CEO and upper management 🤔

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    Why does it feel like all the worst people are working together to fuck over the world?

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    I mean, every apologist and defender of capitalist apocalyptic hellscapes will have that view, sadly. So long as it makes them an extra buck it’s good for them, consequences to society or environment be damned.

    As an European who does advocate and see value in the use of AI, but not at any cost, I’ll take his opinion as a compliment. As they say, “I want AI to do my dishes while I create art, not for me to do the dishes while the AI produces insta-art”.

    And eventually if AI gets capitalistically out of hand and leads to many people in service-based economies to poverty and unhappiness we’re sure to see a revolution to restore balance, as many times in history when a few elites made things unbearable for the rest of the population. AI is here to serve humanity, that’s where the value is, not to serve only a select few.

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      I agree, and as I keep trying to point out to people in the U.S., I’m pretty sure the reason Trump is not even giving GOP loyalists emergency disaster money when something happens in their state, is because there’s nothing left.

      He literally put all of America’s eggs in one basket because he (and Peter Thiel) thought/think if they just deregulate everything and keep throwing money at it as fast as possible they will win, and other countries will be coming to us to buy our AI.

      Tbf they are definitely planning to use it for evil, not to make humanity better, but I still don’t see why anybody would buy AI tech from the U.S.

      I am wondering what happened in Brussels though, that made them say they’re considering some deregulation.

      Trump was also very pissy at all of the EU but apparently Brussels in particular really hurt his ego

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        Germany. Italy. A bunch of EU states. Some African states. Who am I kidding? Capitalism rules the world, they’re just extremely emboldened now. Globally, we need to wake up and show them they’ve overplayed their hand – before we can’t.

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      AI is here to serve humanity, that’s where the value is, not to serve only a select few.

      Mostly right now it is here to torture humanity with low quality slop. It literally can’t do the things people claim it is capable of doing, no matter for whose benefit. It is just that some people benefit even if the output quality is significantly lower as long as they have enough people convinced that it is a viable replacement.

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        The AI field is more than just LLM and generative AI. Like models that can detect cancer in scans are not LLMs or generative AI.

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          Yeah, but Palantir is based on using AI in Saudi Arabia to execute people for being gay. Proof? The computer said so.

          And in any other country it boils down to variations of that principle. Justify oppression, discrimination, torture and murder by the “impartial” decision of the computer algorithm fine tuned to make exactly that decision.

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    The guys views make no sense. He’s basically a socialist who struck it rich and is now a conservative trying to use leftist ideas to attack the left. He still calls himself a socialist.

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    For a brief brief moment I was elated when I parsed the title as ‘Palantir says it has given up on AI’. Then I read the article and was left dejected.

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    Aren’t even Libs pushing backdoor bills and other gross surveillance bills? Hear rich people’s words, watch their actions. Including politicians.The less evidence supporting their words, the more evidence they’re not worthy of their positions.

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      Here in the US there really aren’t any actual libs, and yes, the apparatus of our government is very much behind deregulation of AI, though I imagine some states will push back. The House of Representatives is currently trying to ban state-level regulation of AI for ten years by sneaking amendments into spending bills.

      This douche is just angry because the EU is working on regulating AI, and that’s a huge swath of the business worldwide. I’m grateful that the EU is actually moving regulation forward.

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    I wish we would have given up on it … but that shit is still creeping in everywhere.

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    Given up? I am not sure we even tried and with good reason, it’s a dumb technology based entirely on hype.

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      What an ignorant statement. Unlike other hypes, AI is far from dumb and has a lot of useful applications that could better the world.

      What’s dumb is the hyped up solutions everyone is talking about.

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        Ok yeah AI is a broad collection of algorithms, but most people when hear AI will think the current iteration of llm models. That’s how I used it.