• JeSuisUnHombre@lemm.ee
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    7 days ago

    Here’s a new clearer statement to express my thoughts on the matter.

    Contrails are visible and normal and fine. I probably don’t fully understand the science behind them, but I realize what we are seeing is water vapor.

    Chemtrails are also real though. They are invisible to the naked eye and are directly contributing to global warming as well as some health concerns that are hard to quantify. They are not some conspiracy to control or disable the masses. The exhaust of cars and especially planes leave a trail of harmful chemicals behind them. The reason for this is because we care more about convenience and money than we do about the ecosystem we live in.

    I personally believe pointing out that dichotomy is more useful than laughing at people who are misinformed.

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      that’s not a workable strategy because when you redefine terms like that you sound just like a conspiracy theorist. exhaust gases are not “chemtrails”, they’re exhaust gases. they’re dangerous and everywhere, but they’re not a secret government conspiracy.

      we don’t need a “new way” to talk about things with people who refuse to understand.

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        If you loosely define chemtrails as “a trail of chemicals” then almost everything has chemtrails. Fuckkin ants have chemtrails, it’s how they communicate and navigate.

        Chemtrail conspiracists literally think that airplanes are full of 55 gallon drums of chemicals with the express purpose to harm or feminize the populace to prevent people from opposing the government.

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      Chemtrails are broadly believed to be nefarious chemicals that alter everything from weather (to facilitate global warming, not to prevent it) to human/animal hormones. While exhaust is no doubt harmful, when conspiracy theorists speak of chemtrails, they are speaking of shady government operatives intentionally loading the planes with experimental chemicals that are meant to be rained down onto the masses.

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        Can you blame them when the US government has directly experimented on the American populace in past?

        e.g. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Sea-Spray

        From the page:

        Between 1949 and 1969, open-air tests of biological agents were conducted 239 times.

        239 open-air tests of biological agents in a 20 year period. Many, many people are still alive from that time period. It’s not that long ago.

        Or more broadly, just look at this page: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unethical_human_experimentation_in_the_United_States

        Do those pages inspire trust in the government and military? Would you know if you were being experimented on and gaslit?

        Corporations engage in similar unethical behavior, like putting ingredients that are known to be toxic or harmful to human health in products we consume or put on our bodies.

        Instead of blaming or name-calling people who are paranoid or suspicious, we need a society with a greater focus on human rights — with more regulation and oversight. A society that inspires trust, with the facts, ethics, and independent review to back it up.

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      Contrails are assholes. They are too thin to reflect sunlight, but they soak up and trap heat. They form a blanket and contribute a ton to global warming.