• 9point6@lemmy.world
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    Ew, imagine spending money to wear the privacy invasion of everyone around you on your face

    Didn’t end well for the people a decade ago with Google glass

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      I always say the same thing about Tesla owners, and similar things about people that use Google Home/Alexa/Siri.

      We’ve rolled out the red carpet for Big Brother, and we’ve paid them to do it.

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        It’s why I’m holding onto my dumb early 2000s car as long as I can. I don’t want a fucking surveillance machine on wheels.

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          Man, I’ve had tree limbs fall on my car, breaking every window, knocking body panels loose, and leaving a giant dent in the roof, and I still haven’t gotten a different car because of that bullshit.

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          Yeah, my car is a little bit newer than that, but it’s a base model and is missing a lot of “features”, even compared to the higher trim levels (which still didn’t have android auto or car play). I have no interest in adding cameras and the voice recognition is so bad I could probably just unplug it completely. I’m sitting at about 60-70k miles with the only major work being spark plug replacement and a brake overhaul. I expect another 100k miles at least.

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          There’s a shitload of privacy issues with almost all new cars, but at least outside of Tesla I don’t know of any streaming cameras anywhere past the dash. Even if they did most 360 camera systems have pretty shit views for anything but the road immediately around the vehicle. I just got a new Ford and you wouldn’t see faces no matter how close or far someone was from any of the cameras without them putting their head right up to one. Sure my GPS data is going who knows where at all times and they know about every hard turn or speeding incident, but outside of removing the battery from my phone I’m not exactly sure how to avoid that going to a half dozen random companies for pennies anyway.

          I’m a privacy conscious dude but I’m so damn tired of losing to big companies I’m not sure how hard I can fight beyond tiny donations to the EFF and being aware of all these issues to annoy my friends about whenever it comes up. 🤷‍♂️

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          Huzzah for old hoopties! I drive a '97, myself. Doing all your own maintenance goes a long way in keeping your car running, both in terms of the money you spend and your ability to react calmly when something inevitably breaks on it.

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            It sure does! I’m no car expert but I can and have been doing basic maintenance on this car. Its a hooptie but it’s serving us well.

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    https://www.reflectacles.com/

    Anti facial recognition glasses.

    IR blocking lenses, reflective frames.

    Another way to fuck with a lot of cameras is basically jerry rig some high powered IR LEDs onto your glasses frames, but that does also require a power source and … i guess either a switch, or a battery that is easy to pop in and out.

    Im not aware of anyone actually making and selling those, tho.

    Basically, it can roughly be analogized to stealth tech for a jet:

    Reflectacles… are roughly the equivalent of steath RAM and a bit of a mix of scattering radar waves and also active jamming… visual range gets fucked by the reflective frames, ir blocking lenses… block and absorb IR.

    The ‘jerry right IR lights into your frames’ option… is more like massive EM jamming done by an ELINT aircraft. You’ll basically just show up as an indescirnable smudge spot, very detectable by cameras… but not identifiable by most cameras, if your IR lamps are strong enough to overload their sensors.

    Neither of these are guaranteed to work in all situations.

    Some cameras can handle massive IR intensity, others have algos that say, identify people not by facial recognition, but by gait analysis… exactly how you carry your self as you walk/run.

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        The reflectactles?

        Well, thats good to know.

        Maybe augment them with IR lamps?

        Hrm, it just now occurs to me, if you were to do a jerry rigged IR lamp setup, it might make sense to have something like a dimmer switch, or alternate modes of flashing in various timed or random sequences… may be more or less effective depending on the distance to the kind of camera(s) you’re trying to fuck with, balanced with overall battery life.

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    They’d better not, for the safety of wearers. I can’t be the only one who remembers the way that people wearing the Google Glasses:

    Google started selling a prototype of Google Glass to qualified “Glass Explorers” in the US on April 15, 2013, for a limited period for $1,500, before it became available to the public on May 15, 2014. It has an integrated 5 megapixel still/720p video camera. The headset received a great deal of criticism amid concerns that its use could violate existing privacy laws.

    On January 15, 2015, Google announced that it would stop producing the Google Glass prototype.

    The incident where an entire pub harangued and ejected someone for wearing a pair is a standout. People generally don’t want their private or public interactions and likenesses recorded or livesteamed by someone wearing a camera on their face, even though it’s less obtrusive than someone walking about with a camcorder pointing it at everyone/thing they see.

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    I hope they provide insurance. I’m clumsy. I might accidentally knock them off someone’s face and step on them.

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    This isn’t really news… We all knew this when it came out that it would collect everything it can. I mean it’s Facebook, what else would they do?

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      People say stuff like this online but it’s just dumb. These glasses intentionally look like normal ray bans so you probably wouldn’t notice. The only time I’ve noticed someone wearing them, it was a friend of mine so I’m not going to be an asshole. Are you an asshole?

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        Not sure it’s an asshole move to protect one’s privacy. It is, however, an asshole move to violate someone else’s privacy. Is your friend an asshole?

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          I think he wears them because he sometimes rides a sketchy train line late at night and he wants to be able to record if something goes down. He has normal, vision correcting lenses in them so I can’t just ask him to take them off. The best path forward to respect my friend while respecting my own privacy is to try to bring up the privacy concerns of those glasses and hope he gets the hint.

          My main point is when people say things online like “if I see somebody with those I’d slap them off”. No you wouldn’t. You wouldn’t do or say anything. The person who says that online is a keyboard warrior that’s unfamiliar with real life confrontation. Your privacy is not being respected by getting into a fistfight, drawing the attention of everyone including the police. That’s not how you would solve this conflict. That’s how you become an asshole with a mugshot.

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    They are doing this with all the Ray-Bans they’ve sold? That’s crazy! There could be dozens of them.