Have you watched lower decks or strange new worlds? Strange new worlds is in my opinion easily the most “star trek” of the newer shows and I think it’s excellent. Lower decks is obviously a cartoon but it too manages to somehow feel more like star trek than discovery and often Picard and it’s just a lot of fun and seems to be self aware enough to make it silly while still feeling like Star Trek.
The orville is also great and great star trek, too bad it’s very likely not returning for more.
Also not really sure about that whole being put in his place by women comment… Is it just that you feel he was put in his place at all, or that it was a woman who did it? Cause if it’s the latter…
Anyways I feel that would be a mistake not to at least give SNW or lower decks a try as you never actually know until you try, but I’m not going to sit here and try and convince you beyond saying what I already have if you have already made up your mind. Then again, it’s probably a good idea if things being different upset you this much. All the best.
And don’t worry I know you didn’t mean that I personally ruined star trek.
I haven’t watched Lower Decks or Orville, but Strange New Worlds and Picard.
Whilst I do think, Picard sucked and I do like SNW, I am not praising the latter as apparently the entire fandom.
Well produced, written, directed and played, indeed, but, until now, truly tame and unbold to change expectations. Good entertainment, but hardly anything more.
Discovery was better than it was received, and DS9 is, for me, still the best ST ever made.
The orville is a lot of fun. Feels a lot like TNG but modern and with some humor thrown in. Though the most recent (likely last) does away with most of the humor in favor of a bit more serious, almost movie like stories.
I do agree that discovery is not as bad as most make it out to be, same with Picard, and I actually really enjoyed season 3 of Picard.
I think I just like SNW so much because it’s just that, kind of tame, low stakes, it just feels like trek to me. Not every episode or season needs to be some ultra serious galaxy ending threat.
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Have you watched lower decks or strange new worlds? Strange new worlds is in my opinion easily the most “star trek” of the newer shows and I think it’s excellent. Lower decks is obviously a cartoon but it too manages to somehow feel more like star trek than discovery and often Picard and it’s just a lot of fun and seems to be self aware enough to make it silly while still feeling like Star Trek.
The orville is also great and great star trek, too bad it’s very likely not returning for more.
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In fairness, voyager ruined the Borg, not Picard.
Also not really sure about that whole being put in his place by women comment… Is it just that you feel he was put in his place at all, or that it was a woman who did it? Cause if it’s the latter…
Anyways I feel that would be a mistake not to at least give SNW or lower decks a try as you never actually know until you try, but I’m not going to sit here and try and convince you beyond saying what I already have if you have already made up your mind. Then again, it’s probably a good idea if things being different upset you this much. All the best.
And don’t worry I know you didn’t mean that I personally ruined star trek.
@OrangeJoe
I haven’t watched Lower Decks or Orville, but Strange New Worlds and Picard.
Whilst I do think, Picard sucked and I do like SNW, I am not praising the latter as apparently the entire fandom.
Well produced, written, directed and played, indeed, but, until now, truly tame and unbold to change expectations. Good entertainment, but hardly anything more.
Discovery was better than it was received, and DS9 is, for me, still the best ST ever made.
@phoenixz
The orville is a lot of fun. Feels a lot like TNG but modern and with some humor thrown in. Though the most recent (likely last) does away with most of the humor in favor of a bit more serious, almost movie like stories.
I do agree that discovery is not as bad as most make it out to be, same with Picard, and I actually really enjoyed season 3 of Picard.
I think I just like SNW so much because it’s just that, kind of tame, low stakes, it just feels like trek to me. Not every episode or season needs to be some ultra serious galaxy ending threat.
Lower decks is just fast paced silly fun.