The degrowth movement wants to intentionally shrink the economy to address climate change, and create lives with less stuff, less work, and better well-being. But is it a utopian fantasy?
"In 2014, the United States Supreme Court voiced its position in no uncertain terms. In Burwell v Hobby Lobby Stores Inc., the Supreme Court stated that “Modern corporate law does not require for profit corporations to pursue profit at the expense of everything else”.
In co-ops the employees have a controlling interest, right? So a majority of them would still need to want to shrink the company. That might be easier to convince them than investors though.
True, it would still need to be based off the cooperative ideas. There was an awesome forestry co-op in the 70-90’s called the Hoedad’s that had an interesting model and had each section ran as separate crews with even different pay structures and even philosophical structures. They did tree replanting and brush cutting and many other activities but each sub group bid contacts independently but we’re part of the workers cooperative collectively.
If the shareholders want the corporation to blatantly violate the law, they don’t do that. They don’t have to do everything that shareholders want. Shareholders are perfectly free to sell their shares, if they don’t like what a company is doing, or to vote out members of the board, if they don’t like the way the company is being managed. The idea that corporations have no other choice is a myth perpetuated to maintain the status quo
"In 2014, the United States Supreme Court voiced its position in no uncertain terms. In Burwell v Hobby Lobby Stores Inc., the Supreme Court stated that “Modern corporate law does not require for profit corporations to pursue profit at the expense of everything else”.
https://legislate.ai/blog/does-the-law-require-public-companies-to-maximise-shareholder-value
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The issue isn’t law. It’s base greed.
Hmm interesting. Thank you!
They do have an obligation to what their share holders want though don’t they?
Maybe part of degrowth would be fewer public companies beholden to shareholders.
Private companies are still beholden to their owners. Would the alternative be government ownership?
Co-op structures could work too.
In co-ops the employees have a controlling interest, right? So a majority of them would still need to want to shrink the company. That might be easier to convince them than investors though.
True, it would still need to be based off the cooperative ideas. There was an awesome forestry co-op in the 70-90’s called the Hoedad’s that had an interesting model and had each section ran as separate crews with even different pay structures and even philosophical structures. They did tree replanting and brush cutting and many other activities but each sub group bid contacts independently but we’re part of the workers cooperative collectively.
If the shareholders want the corporation to blatantly violate the law, they don’t do that. They don’t have to do everything that shareholders want. Shareholders are perfectly free to sell their shares, if they don’t like what a company is doing, or to vote out members of the board, if they don’t like the way the company is being managed. The idea that corporations have no other choice is a myth perpetuated to maintain the status quo