That’s just wild. The one silver lining to T2 is that I’m not shocked by anything anymore. It’s still outrageous, but the surprise is gone.

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    But I thought conservatives said COVID was all made up and a plot by the democrats to control the populace through mask-wearing?

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      Note that mask-wearing only makes it so you can’t breathe if Democrats want you to do it for public health reasons. Mask-wearing is hunky dory if you’re doing it because you’re a Nazi who doesn’t want to be personally identified.

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        Oh sure this is like them claiming that nanograms of mercury in vaccines cause autism but they argue that companies dumping mercury into their local atmosphere, soil, and water are overburdened by liberal government regulations and shouldn’t be regulated.

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          Then in order to “cure” said autism, they pump their children with any manner of completely worthless and dangerous interventions from the same pharma companies they claim to hate.

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            Yeah I just listened to the newest Behind the Bastards about this and Robert Evans describes numerous examples of parents treating their kids like lab rats and pumping them full of expiramental drugs until they died. It’s awful shit all around.

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              Is that this week or the nightmare chelation therapy and exploding death chambers to cure ‘heavy metal toxicity’ from last week?

              The child murder episodes are rather hard to handle.

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          Well you see, there’s a simple explanation for this. When we do it, it’s good, and when you do it, it’s bad.

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        I feel like I’m screaming, “help” at the top of a mountain, yet nobody can hear me. I feel like almost all online interactions are false. I feel like my day to day life is shrinking from country scale to community to household scale. This is where we are divided and we don’t care for another, but only ourselves. Not out of greed, but out of perceived necessity. It’s all fake.

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          I completely understand sometimes it feels like everyone has their head buried in the sand or worse is lapping up the misinformation without a second thought, living in a post truth society is truly hell for the analytical.

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          I’m with you. Corporations have figured out how to fully monetize the internet and information in general. Knowledge and education have been paywalled. What does filter through is manipulation and brainwashing in some form.

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        Such a good song. I have not thought about or listened to that song or album in at least a decade. Thanks for the reference to rekindle my fond memories. Time to go listen to some Bad Religion… :-)

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          They released a record called Age of Unreason during the first trump term. Its some of the strongest material of their career imo.

          New Maps of Hell was pretty killer though

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        “We’ve got the American Jesus. He helped build the President’s estate.”

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    That website is batshit. It looks like a tabloid website. It’s not just promoting the lab leak theory. It also calls out Fauci, Andrew Cuomo, and Biden. It is basically a political hit piece. Fucking embarrassing.

    It would basically be like Biden changing a site about Russia to include info about Trump’s pee tape.

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    I’m just sitting here watching the end of the world

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    I saw a billboard outside of my city yesterday saying something like “did your loved ones really die of COVID-19?” and had some “covid is a hoax” website named on it. What a fucking dark timeline we’re in.

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      I overheard a guy in 2021 say to someone that his brother said, “I just came from a funeral for a friend who died from covid.” The next thing the guy said was, "I told him, no, your friend died with covid, not from covid.

      It really upset me. I just tried to ignore him but it actually kinda ruined my day.

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      This is a group of people who feel they’ve been unfairly made fun of for too long finally getting their revenge.

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    Lab leak: picture of Trump. Hm, I always suspected that’s how he came into this world. Good thing they’re officially confirming it.

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    It is insane how many comments here believe that humans somehow made COVID-19 in a lab and leaked it. It is obvious and clear that the critical sequences responsible for the jump to humans exist in wild type form in nature. In fact, the critical spike protein sequence is so similar between coronavirus that the antigen work which the vaccine was based upon was done BEFORE COVID-19 in Jason McClellan’s lab at Dartmouth.

    This WILL happen again, and conspiracy theories that have now shut down labs and funding are likely to cause millions of lost lives next time. We got lucky and the tinfoil hats are going to guarantee we’ll be unlucky next time.

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      Yeah, I used to believe that too. Until I read how irresponsible these scientists were. Before the outbreak, they were planning to release an enhanced version into bat caves filled with bats to observe how the coronavirus mutated. They were infecting bats in the lab with coronavirus. Nobody said they created this from scratch, but they could have definitely helped evolution along. Even the CIA suspects it could have been a lab leak. I think the problem is that thinking it is “man-made” is hard for many, but it’s not difficult to believe that the evolution of the virus was influenced by humans.

      https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/cia-shifts-assessment-covid-origins-saying-lab-leak-likely-caused-outb-rcna189284

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        it’s not difficult to believe that the evolution of the virus was influenced by humans.

        Only for the ignorant. This is how research has worked for decades. Even the CIA (who are not scientists) have “low confidence”. Since when does “low confidence” mean it happened or you believe it??

        All sequence data, wild type virus, and previous research history clearly show this virus existed in nature and because it is a highly mutable RNA virus, was able to infect humans. No credible scientist says otherwise. Let’s be clear - if they were studying the virus in a lab and it “got out” from the lab or from the wild what difference does it make? This is NOT a man made virus and to make the leap to that is just plain ignorance.

        So the ignorant human response is to shut down all research on viruses because of the fear of it being “man made”. The result? When this happens again in 3 or 100 years (which it will), we will have no R&D to lean on LIKE WE DID FOR THE COVID19 VACCINE. We’ve ALREADY discovered a number of viruses in the wild that are likely to mutate and cause another pandemic. We should be celebrating research because the previous decade of work on antigen presentation of the spike protein gave us a vaccine in 11 months that we would otherwise likely not have EVEN TODAY.

        I guess this is why ancient civilizations had human sacrifice when there was an eclipse. The stupid scared ignorant people determined public policy.

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          All sequence data, wild type virus, and previous research history clearly show this virus existed in nature

          This is an exaggeration. There was a strain logged that was 96% similar (BatCoV RaTG13) but this lacked the proteins at the S1/S2 furin cleavage site.

          This is NOT a man made virus

          But it could be a man influenced virus.

          we will have no R&D to lean on LIKE WE DID FOR THE COVID19 VACCINE

          Vaccine research does not require gain of function studies.

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      It is obvious and clear that the critical sequences responsible for the jump to humans exist in wild type form in nature.

      In theory. In practice no evidence of these stages has been found.

      However it would be feasible to simulate the conditions required in a lab environment.

      Controlled funding for gain of function research does not mean all lab work should stop.

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        Let me know how “gain of function” research is different than using plasmids. I’ll wait.

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    The “ANDREW CUOMO: FAILURE” at the bottom of the government site is some random shade, but I enjoy that at least. Fuck Andrew Cuomo

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      Yeah, fuck Cuomo, but a lot of the reasons for New York’s poor performance at the start of COVID were structural issues that were out of his control.

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    The tall letters in all caps.
    The dramatic fade to blue.
    Trump standing in the middle.
    The fancy font on 𝓒𝓸𝓿𝓲𝓭.

    Oooh the tackiness is too much to bear

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    So the narrative is COVID was a dangerous lab leak - but also, you don’t have to wear a mask?

    Consistency is not a strong point of these dumbasses.

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      It’s pretty standard to play both extremes simultaneously, and people just pick whichever they want to relate to at any given moment.

      eg.

      • (such-and-such group) are lazy, but also they are taking all the jobs.
      • They are stupid, but also have secret organisations that control the world, with mind-control, and lasers that control the weather, etc.
      • They are snowflakes obsessed with inclusiveness, but also they want (target-minority-group) to take over.
      • They are against free speech; and we must silence them.

      I’m sure others can think of more, and variations on those.

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      If they thought clearly, they wouldn’t be prime targets for conspiracy theories and propaganda. We’re talking about people who can’t think rationally.

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    Why would he want his photo in the middle of that text? He’s associating himself with negativity, I feel like this is marketing/propaganda 101. It honestly looks like a movie poster where he’s the one leaking it.

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    So… Chinese Americans (and anyone vaguely Asian looking) the next to be sent to concentration camps?

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      Sinophobia was already rampant and bipartisan.
      Deliberately fueled by the government.
      Like the embarrassing ‘spy’ balloon farce as an example.

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        Not going to make excuses for the democrats, I am saying our nazi government needs more scapegoats, and they’re back to spreading lies about them. It’s the first step like calling all immigrants ms13.

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    I always wondered what it would be like to live in oppressive regimes like Russia or China. Also never thought I’d live through a pandemic. Checking all the boxes lately.