Even if the tariffs were to be reversed tomorrow, one wine business leader said, it’ll take "at least a year, if not longer, for my industry to recover.”
Canada’s break from American-made wine and the Trump administration’s global tariffs have compounded the struggles of the United States’ already-stressed wine industry to the point that it may be difficult for much of it “to come back from,” an American wine organization leader told NBC News.
“Canada is the single most important export market for U.S. wines with retail sales in excess of $1.1 billion annually,” Robert Koch, the California Wine Institute’s president and CEO, said in a statement.
Last month Canada united to boycott American wines — taking all U.S.-made vino and alcohol off its liquor and wine store shelves and out of restaurants across the country — as an aggressive retaliatory response to Trump’s tariffs on its political ally north of the border.
“Aggressive response”, lol. Moron-in-chief is threatening to annex their country!
“We’re gonna invade and annex your country!”
“Well, we’re not gonna buy any more of your stuff, then!”
“Whoa, so aggressive!”
Last month Canada united to boycott American wines — taking all U.S.-made vino and alcohol off its liquor and wine store shelves and out of restaurants across the country — as an aggressive retaliatory response to Trump’s tariffs on its political ally north of the border.
Not a single mention about the threats of economic strangulation and annexation.
Dear American cousins, tarrifs, while backstabbing the best ally anyone has ever had, are your perogative. Your country, your borders, your rules. Sure we will stand up for ourselves and counter tarrif, but that is just business.
Threatening annexation is what has caused for many a lifelong change. The interviewee who said that “even if everything returned to normal tomorrow, it would take a year to recover” missed the point badly. Canadians are a friendly bunch, but once burned like this will never set foot in you country again for a lifetime and will make the consumer boycot for life. I am one of them.
Even if trump is gone, the dems sweep and get universal healthcare, and become a shiny happy prosperous place, I am done with America. I don’t deal with backstabbers. There may be a time when our countries can heal and reconcile. I will be dead before that time comes. This is generational fuckery and America will reap what it sows.
As an American, I’m sorry, but good. Every single country needs to stand up to the idiots that enabled the fascists to take over our country. We need to feel pain before we learn it seems.
Damn. Fucking. Right. Bud.
Perhaps you could set foot in this country again to burn down the White House for old time’s sake?
Not interested. Unless you make us.
I get your sentiment, but aren’t you just being a tad bit melodramatic? Lol.
No. Perfectly and absolutely serious.
No. I assume you’re American?
More than 2/3rds of Canadians no longer see the US as an ally.
Scott Galloway recently asked Mark Carney (current prime minister of Canada) about this on his podcast.
The simple answer is you don’t get to threaten another country’s sovereignty and expect it not to be taken seriously.
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Not even close.
Fuck all Americans. You did this, you aren’t stopping this.
Epic level of world harm from a country that expects exception for its internal politics while the world watches its kids die and borders flood with guns while you threaten economically and militarily under the guise of national security and a fucking suitcase worth of fentanyl.
But it’s GREED AND HATE. That’s Americas export, and you aren’t making us buy it you’re trying to fucking force it on other countries. Asking the UK to abandon LGBTQ+ rights over trade? A sovereign fucking free country? FUCK YOU ALL.
Fuck me haha. If the other dude was being melodramatic, you’re down right hyperbolic. Fuck all Americans, really? Not every American did this. Almost half of people who voted did vote against Trump for one. And people have also been protesting and resisting.
To be fair, that entire industry, wines about everything.
:rimshot:
Let me salt it first before you lick it.
Might wanna google that word
It was a bad joke, I still think it’s funny though. People need a sense of humor.
I didn’t understand the joke. Still don’t actually
“Canada is the single most important export market for U.S. wines with retail sales in excess of $1.1 billion annually,” Robert Koch, the California Wine Institute’s president and CEO, said in a statement.
Awesome stat. They can get fucked.
I see this as an absolute win for freedom & democracy.
Farmers are currently in the “Finding Out” stage unfortunately. They were warned.
Although the overwhelming majority of American wine comes from the three deep blue west coast states, so probably not these farmers in particular.
That’s a lot of Red for a deep blue state.
Turns out, people vote, not land
39% Trump is a lot of fascists.
Amazing how people love to ignore this.
All of the wine being discussed in this thread comes from the blue counties just north of San Francisco.
Harris won Sonoma county 72% to 25% Trump
Harris won Napa county 64% to 33% Trump
California as a whole voted for Harris 58% to 38% Trump. The wine producing counties actually voted more blue than the average in a DEEP blue state.
Good thing land doesn’t vote lol
Even if it were still on the shelf, it’s not going to be bought.
Sorry America, but your administration has decided you need to suffer. You should do something about that.
Until then, borders closed. We aren’t visiting or buying your crap.
Thank you for that, seriously.
Your external pressure helps encourage more people to rise up. I’ve seen a ton of Canadian flags at the 50501 protests. We stand in solidarity against this madness.
i do not think the administration has too much to do with that. it is american people. it is not even the maga people alone. it is the americans. it doesnt matter anymore if they vote their pseudo democrats any time in the future. they have proven to be total assholes again and again.
Since nobody else will be buying wine or jack Daniels, and whatever other alcohol, I am guessing alcohol will become cheaper and alcoholism will be on the rise, the next few years.
Make Americans Alcoholics Again
Hey, just like Russia!
Trump’s tariffs lowering the US wine industry’s sales is just preparation for his environmental policies lowering their production by making it harder to grow grapes. It’ll all balance out eventually.
Guess they should have thought about that before voting…or should have actually voted!
Californians?
There’s a lot of wine country in Eastern Washington, Idaho, and Oregon, too. Rural areas with rural voters. Walla Walla county went hard for Trump, even though he lost statewide.
More towards America as a whole. We all know how California votes so it’s not on them that’s for sure. But they sure are suffering from the election outcome that’s for sure and it really sucks.
The people that make wine in california vote conservative. The cities are liberal but rural is very red.
Good. Maybe it will make them stand up to their tyrannical dictator. That’s what this is all about.
Unavoidable. It’s impossible to only support states that didn’t vote for Trump, so we all have to suffer.
Yup. Exactly why it sucks for all the people in the states who didn’t vote for this shit show. During his first term I kept buying American products mainly fruits and vegetables that came from blue states. Not this time around. A loud and clear message needs to be sent, especially when the Cheeto thinks he can just take over other countries
I approve. The world needs to make us a pariah. No dealing with fascist governments!
But I kept hearing that the US doesn’t need Canada?
The US would have a trade surplus with Canada if not for oil which Canada sells at below market rate, the US refines and then sells for 3x their purchase price.
If anything, Canada subsidizes the US.
some of the electricity too.
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I live in Australia and the local winery is owned by a Californian company that sends all their output exclusively to the US domestic market. It would be such a shame if those US companies fucked off and profits went back into the local economy.
Come for us and we won’t go easily like your citizens.
I want to know how they voted before I feel sorry for them. . . That being said, I did notice my usual brand of wine went up by $2 a bottle this month. Guess they are trying to make up for this mess.
Good. Alcohol is evil anyway.
eViL
Hope you don’t consume soy sauce.
what’s wrong with soy sauce
It has alcohol in it, so religious fundamentalists that say alcohol is evil and eat fried rice are being hypocritical. Same goes for a lot of products, alcohol is everywhere and helps add flavor to a lot of foods.
Unless the original commenter was referring to the negative societal impacts of excessive alcohol consumption and alcoholism, but they didn’t clarify.
I indeed rarely do, funnily enough, and haven’t owned it in my home for years!
As someone who vomits at a strong smell of alcohol and gets nauseous with any smell…
Fuckin wat
Alcohol is no more evil than table salt or the dirt beneath your feet.
Guess what! Everything you consume is slowly contributing to your ultimate fate.
If you want to pass on any consumption, cool. Good for you.
If you want to be a judgemental ass towards others, there’s the door. If it hits you in the ass on the way out, so be it.
Um, is there a Mothers Against Table Salt organization? Or are you saying that Mothers Against Drunk Driving is comprised of judgmental asses? I didn’t post that comment just because I’m a teetotaler. Maybe you haven’t seen the pain and suffering of those with severe alcoholics in their families like I have, in which case I hope you never do.
Lol what a judgemental person
Huh? I don’t judge drug users; I judge the substance itself, which should be banned.
It’s not “drugs and alcohol”; it’s “drugs.” Anything else only means alarmingly successful marketing.
I’m not against mind-altering substances! If people need relaxation through a mind-altering substance, marijuana has consistently proven to be far healthier overall, since you can’t overdose on it and there is no hangover if used correctly. Alcohol, on the other hand…
https://www.niaaa.nih.gov/alcohols-effects-health/alcohols-effects-body
which should be banned.
We tried that. It didn’t go so well.
Right, but it was also a totally different world back then with cannabis, psilocybin, etc. nowhere near as well-studied nor accessible. Arguably anything before the advent of the Internet, and even anything before COVID and now AI, is outdated if not plain unusable as a reference point…
Anyway, I was being a bit tongue-in-cheek as bans aren’t that effective regardless, but imposing a massive, tobacco-like tax would get my support, given its life-ruining ratio to all other stuff (relative to public accessibility, anyway).
I’m more in favor of decriminalization. I would only react similarly to you for cocaine, meth, heroin, and PCP. Those are bad news.
That works! And agreed…
I am pretty sick of its ubiquity. Like my friends can’t even hang out unless it’s somewhere that serves.
I don’t see votes but you’re probably downvoted to hell. People get real weird when you start criticising what they eat or drink.
Yes, people do get “weird” when you literally call them “evil”.
“I don’t like the way that drinking alcohol is seen as a neccessary component of socialising in our society.” <-- Completely reasonable statement, even as someone who drinks I agree wholeheartedly. North America in particular has a serious problem with a lack of third spaces that aren’t bars or other places that serve alcohol.
“Alcohol is evil” <-- Absolutely deranged thing to say, deserves to be down voted into oblivion. I cannot even begin to imagine what would possess someone to willingly share this thought with the universe.
I did not call people evil but the substance, and my stance has nothing to do with socializing (which is fine) but rather everything to do with the pain of drunk driving, abuse, addiction, permanent bodily harm, psychological scarring, and death that are all results of alcohol intake. Why play with fire? Let’s look at other drugs:
“According to the National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism, alcohol causes 88,000 (62,000 men and 26,000 women) deaths every year. The National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism tells us alcohol shortened the lifespan of those 88,000 by 30 years. That makes alcohol the third leading preventable cause of death in the U.S. All other drugs combined cause approximately 30,000 deaths annually.” - https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/all-about-addiction/201601/which-is-more-dangerous-alcohol-or-drugs
I don’t even understand why I’m conducting this research right now; why are you disagreeing? Arguing against science is like saying the damage from leaded gasoline was all fine. That article was from 2016, so let’s find something more recent for relevance:
“A new study estimates that over their lifetime, more than a third of U.S. adults or 113 million people are harmed from someone else’s drinking while 46 million experience harms from someone else’s drug use. Among study respondents, 34.2% experienced secondhand harms from alcohol, 5.5% from cannabis, 7.6% from opioids, and 8.3% from other drugs.” - https://www.phi.org/press/new-study-alcohol-and-drug-use-cause-significant-harms-that-go-beyond-the-individual/
That was just from Nov. 2024. I hope I don’t have to go on. There are so many incredible and safer ways to have fun (and even ones that are as wild or wilder, when it comes to certain mind-altering substances). /c/stopdrinking exists for a reason, and I’m not gonna minimize their struggle in light of those ratios above.
And wine is famously only made in the USA.
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I didn’t mean “evil” from a morality perspective, but was describing how damaging it is to people’s health: https://www.who.int/europe/news/item/04-01-2023-no-level-of-alcohol-consumption-is-safe-for-our-health
You and my liver are natural and sworn enemies. ;)
