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    This headline is horseshit so I’ve only read enough to establish that much and am ignoring the rest of the article. Someone post a different one.

    Here’s all you need to know from the article:

    Republicans, and apparently some Democrats

    many have warned that it could even make it harder for married women to vote.

    The only conclusion you should draw is this: Marin Scotten of the New Republic is full of shit and shall not be trusted ever. You may conclude as you wish about all other matters based on other sources.

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      You’re being extreme. I suppose headline is misleading because the bill would have passed without Democrat support, and it doesn’t directly restrict the voting of married women. But four house democrats did vote for this (presumably because they’re in swing districts or border towns?), and the premise (requiring proof of citizenship is soft voter supression) appears to be true.

      But you are touching on something I feel. Lots of really sensationalist sources float to the top of Lemmy’s front page.

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        New Republic is the worst. The Trump administration already does a lot of really awful, shitty, terrible things that deserve sunlight without sensationalizing shit, but they make a lot of sensationalist articles and a lot of “Oh Boy this ONE maga voter is really sorry now!” pieces. It’s got big institutional Democrat energy.

        That said, yes, the headline is indirectly correct.

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          Rawstory is pretty bad too. Blogs/tweets that float up can be even worse.

          I get it, people have their regular sources and well we should do something about it and post better ones if we don’t like it, but still.

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      This headline is horseshit

      The legislation fucks with the ability for women who change their last name after marriage to obtain the IDs necessary to cast a ballot, which are increasingly fixated on tying everything back to your Birth Certificate. Four Democrats supported this bill, ostensibly in order to fuck over Transgender people.

      Incidentally, one of the four - Henry Cuellar - is indicted on charges of bribery, unlawful foreign influence, and money laundering, allegedly accepting nearly $600,000 in bribes from foreign entities in exchange for political favors. Crazy that Dem megadonors continue to back him in election after election.

      Marin Scotten of the New Republic is full of shit and shall not be trusted ever.

      My guy, you’re the one spewing horseshit here.

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        right I thought I was waking up in crazy town. many women change their names and do not update their birth certificate My therapist was literally telling me about her issues with doing it because she’s been divorced a couple times this legislation directly impacts women and trans people specifically. It is intentionally written to make it harder for people in these groups to vote me personally I’m in the middle of getting my birth certificate updated so I’m hoping it won’t be a problem by the time midterms come up, but overall this bill is a bad bill it’s not needed there’s no need for this bill it’s absolutely pointless and pathetic attempt at voter manipulation

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      I’m going to conclude blue MAGA is angry and can’t take criticism.
      Attacking the source when NPR and plenty of media report the same thing.

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        Focusing direct attention on 4 out of 220 people and wording it as if those were the only people who did it isn’t a critisism, it’s a manipulation. It’s the same manipulation that was around for months before the election which lead to all this bullshit in the first place. For a median voter it makes this regular “both sides” bullshit, when in reality it’s 216 vs 4 people.

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    “Four democrats passed this,” but we are just going to ignore the 216 conservatives that passed it?

    So when do we get to start calling bullshit like this propaganda?

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      Everyone already knows all the republicans supported it; anything under their jurisdiction is already a lost cause. What I want to know is how many people from the “left” party can’t even keep their own votes on the right side of history. It’s not news when villains are villains - it’s news when the people who say they’re here to fight back against the villains are caught supporting them, and it’s important not to drown out that important detail among a bunch of already-known regressives. People need to see that the current democratic party isn’t a viable defense against conservativism, and that we need to do something more to get things moving in the right direction again than simply trusting democrats to fix everything.

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        I get what you’re saying… but have a hard time accepting that just because, conserves are being conservatives, it’s seemingly fine that they do villain-shit. We’ll just be outraged at the audacity of four idiot democrats that voted in lock-step with them.

        ALL of them need to be held accountable.

        But here, when all I see are people ignoring the villains, it makes me wonder why I ever bothered to question how we got here.

        Conservatives have survived on their ability to never be held accountable for what they do. And seeing everyone focused on holding four democrats responsible for their joint effort with 16 conservatives and not even mentioning the assholes that drew this up to begin with-

        I guess it all makes more sense now how thoroughly we are fucked.

        It’s totally Democrats fault.

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            pastin

            And what I said is slop?

            I’ll digress and simplify it for you since you seem to be having trouble:

            I find it strange how here on lemmy, whenever something happens, any time a democrat is involved in the slightest- whatever bad happened, it’s entirely blamed on the democrats, regardless of the fact that it wouldn’t have even happened to begin with had it not been for conservatives.

            Further simplification:

            • A bill is drafted- by conservatives
            • 216 conservatives vote for it
            • 4 democrats vote for it

            You: “See? We told you! All of the democrats are evil!

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              Or is it every time (cuz there are countless times) people get mad at Dems for failing just enough to enable the Republicans some copy pastin breathless newbie to politics comes in with copypasta defending them?

              Hmmmmmm 🤔

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                I’d prefer to go with what’s empirically provable vs. some random shit you came up with because you can’t be seen to be proven wrong about something- in an argument with someone that you need to assume shit about in order to look like you know what you’re saying.

                And “breathless newbie”?

                Hilarious! You know nothing about me, therefore, you don’t get to make edits to who I am.

                Now… You’re just going to have to be okay with all of this and move on, alright?

                We’re done talking now. Enjoy that ever-important last word you seem to always have to have.

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      People expect the representative they voted for to vote how they want. Conservatives’ representative voted as they wanted. Whereas Democrats’ representative voted against their wishes. Hence the outrage.

      This is a simplistic explanation, 4 Democratic representative might have voted as their constituents have demanded.

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        Based on what I hear on local news, Perez at least probably is doing what her constituents want. She won a very red district as a Democrat by appealing to the people in her district. I don’t like her vote, but I get it.

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        I’d bet most conservative women didn’t vote to have their ability to vote taken away as well. Having to have a “real ID” license accepted in every state not be accepted to vote is pure ridiculousness.

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      My initial reaction to this headline was: “what now?”, and my first reaction on reading the article was “oh, it’s a continuation of the horror show that calls itself US government - not actually something that four democrats are responsible for”

      So I’m totally with you. Stop the sanewashing of the continued and systematic madness rising to ever new heights of depravity, should be the headline.

      Republicans built the foundation for what’s happening now for decades, and it was always like you said in your other comment: “Conservatives have survived on their ability to never be held accountable for what they do.” Well, slightly more differentiated.

      This bill is yet another voter supression tool. This is what they ultimately want: you have to be rich, male, of a certain ethic, and “white” to have a say. And they’re almost there. If voting was really made easy for everyone, do you really think the GOP would still win?
      This is yet another piece of codified and systemic racism, misogyny, homo- and transphobia, richism.
      The hollowing out of what was once a working, relatively democratic system to a point where even the empty shell is starting to break up.

      All that said, Democrats should start wielding what power they have (both in the government and in media, public opinion etc.) way more decisively. Between elections we must talk about how fucked up both parties are.

      This comment (from this post) puts it best imho:
      https://lemmy.world/comment/16414382
      https://feddit.org/post/10702307/6001640

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      “man bites dog” vs “dog bites man”

      We all know what the Republicans unanimously stand for. Apparently some democrats do too, and that’s worth noting.

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    IANAL but in my reading of the text of the bill the only way for a married woman that took her partner’s last name (that wasn’t in the military with her married name) to be able to vote if this becomes law is for them to spend at least $30 to get a USA Passport card. This would tick all the boxes the bill requires for these women:

    • Government ID
    • Shows citizenship status (by nature of it being a Passport)
    • Shows place of birth
    • Shows the married last name

    …or as I’m calling it:

    This is violation of the 24th Amendment banning poll Taxes.

    In this case, its a required fee married women must pay to be able to use their Constitutional guaranteed right to vote granted by the 19th Amendment. How is this not a poll tax by another name on married women?

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      Consider this too. A woman has all of her ducks in a row with her married last name, and then divorces her POS republican husband. Now she needs to re-establish her identity all over again.

      For the ladies out there (or anyone getting married) keep your last name. My partner kept theirs, and it tickles them pink when the systemic chauvinism gets reversed and I get called by their last name.

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        My partner kept theirs, and it tickles them pink when the systemic chauvinism gets reversed and I get called by their last name.

        Same here. :)

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          They didn’t. People who know the wife assume her name will be the same and mistakenly call them the same.

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      Worse getting the card is a major pita with the documentation and photo and having to mail it for first time.

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      It always seems to me that this wouldn’t be such a big problem if the US had a working bureaucracy. I know $30 can be a significant sum (plus the pictures and other expenses) but it would be less of a hurdle if

      • relevant offices were within reasonable distance
      • they were sufficiently manned
      • all or part of the process could be done online
      • the government actually strives to make these processes as user-friendly as possible

      This is something Americans rarely talk about because it’s just assumed that everybody knows? Maybe somebody could explain to a EU dweller.

      edit: maybe I didn’t phrase this properly. I’m fully aware that preventing people from voting has a long “tradition” in the US; my question was more general I guess, and meant as an “in addition to the points already mentioned”.

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        Those in power absolutely know these things but making things more difficult is the actual point. Voter fraud is extremely rare. The justification is all bull shit.

        It’s ultimately about preventing people who might vote Democrat from voting. If it affects a ton of Republican voters that’s fine so long as it hits disproportionately more Democrats.

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        It always seems to me that this wouldn’t be such a big problem if the US had a working bureaucracy.

        As a European I have no expectation you’d had this nugget of US history, but I can fill in the gap. After slavery was outlawed in the entire USA in the 1850s (post civil war) racist bigots enacted laws preventing black Americans from using their newly gained Constitutional rights. There were lots of examples of this. In many of the southern state local leaders instituted poll taxes, which was a required fee that someone would have to pay before being able to vote, but these same laws gave exemptions to anyone whose grandfather had voted in a prior election. Because whites had a long history of voting they were exempt from these taxes. Because newly freed slaves whose grandfathers had not been allowed to vote hadn’t, the poll tax applied only to blacks. This disenfranchisement was deliberate on the part of white leaders with the intent to suppress black voting.

        This is obviously fairly fucked up way to run a country, so the people of the USA passed an amendment to the US Constitution banning poll taxes on everyone. This is the 24th Amendment (passed in 1964). Better late than never.

        So this new requirement on married women to pay at least $30 to get a passport card is a de facto poll tax which is outlawed by our Constitution (24th Amendment) also because it violates the 19th Amendment (the one that gave women the right to vote) as this law specifically targets married women (and not married men).

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          You’re absolutely correct, but Donald Trump dgaf about the constitution, at most he sees it as an inconvenience, something that other people have to do or something to wave like a flag, not something for him personally to actually obey. And the scotus has no intention whatsoever of holding him to it.

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      here’s the issue.

      There’s been a tax on the second amendment for decades. Having to pay the fees for licensing, and the classes, means there’s a cost to exercise the right. Since people with no knowledge about the subject made sure to make it as expensive as possible to enjoy a right, the psychopaths in office now have precedent.

      one cannot tax one right and hand wave another. So . which do you think will fall first?

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        Is there an amendment that bans a tax on gun ownership?

        If not, then your argument has no standing

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          is there an Amendment that bans a tax on any right?

          if not then your argument has no standing.

          Point is, requiring people to pay to exercise rights is now enshrined. and we watched it happen.

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            The 24th amendment very specifically bans polling taxes

            The right of citizens of the United States to vote in any primary or other election for President or Vice President, for electors for President or Vice President, or for Senator or Representative in Congress, shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or any State by reason of failure to pay any poll tax or other tax.

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              Miller v. US, 230 F2d 489 “The claim and exercise of a Constitutional right cannot be converted into a crime.”

              Shuttlesworth v. Birmingham 394 U.S. 147 (1969). “Persons faced with an unconstitutional licensing law which purports to require a license as a prerequisite to exercise of right… may ignore the law and engage with impunity in exercise of such right.”

              US Supreme Court in Hurtado v. California 110 US 516: “The state cannot diminish the rights of the people.”

              Sherar v. Cullen, 481 F2d 946(1973) “… there can be no sanction or penalty imposed upon one because of his exercise of constitutional rights”

              Also in Murdock: “a person cannot be compelled “to purchase, through a license fee or a license tax, the privilege freely granted by the constitution.”"

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                The claim and exercise of a Constitutional right cannot be converted into a crime.

                Irrelevant to this conversation.

                Persons faced with an unconstitutional licensing law which purports to require a license as a prerequisite to exercise of right… may ignore the law and engage with impunity in exercise of such right.

                By this logic, voter registration isn’t in the constitution, so you might be able to make the argument that it violates the 14th, 15th, 19th, and 24th amendments. Again, by this logic, regardless of if people have proper voting registration or any voting registration at all, they should still be able to vote anyways. The 4 Democrats mentioned in the above article pass a law against the above.

                The state cannot diminish the rights of the people.

                Tell that to the Republicans that introduced the above bill.

                there can be no sanction or penalty imposed upon one because of his exercise of constitutional rights

                What about the right to protest of UCLA students last April being violated because of false claims of anti-semitism, or the right to protest of Columbia students last March because of similar false claims? Did the US care about imposing sanctions or penalties on those people, or did they just detain and deport them instead?

                a person cannot be compelled “to purchase, through a license fee or a license tax, the privilege freely granted by the constitution.”

                Again, tell that to Republicans that introduced the above bill.

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        Dont stop! I’m playing sad violin music to back you up! keep typing, think of the children who wont get to fire guns without your continued effort.

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          Jesus Christ what’s the matter with you! I didn’t think id see the same type of insulting children here as on reddit. What ever happened to civil discourse?

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              Umm. I don’t own a modern firearm

              Don’t be so antagonistic. No one’s asking for sympathy. Why so angry?

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                Lol up and down this thread crying about gun taxes. “Why so angry?” You’re that kind of redditor lol. I’d say go back, but I’ll bet you’re one of the ones that actually earned your ban.

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                  Um. You ok ? What have I said to offend you so? Did I call you a name or something?

                  I’m a bit confused as to why you won’t just have a civil discussion?

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            ( sad violin music intensifies, with frett pounding added to simulate bullet firing noises )

            Its about time someone spoke up for pew-pew owners rights. Why do the anti school shooting folks get all the press?

            How dare everyone not consider my gawd-given personal rights to mass casualty tools.

            /s

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        So which amendment bans taxes on gun ownership. Must have missed that one.

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        How does the 2nd amendment stop taxes on guns?

        You’re being an idiot, and you should shut up.

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          what are you talking about? No one said that. the gun itself isn’t the question.

          learn how to read

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            Which part of the 2nd amendment bans any taxes?

            You moved the goalposts, but you moved them to an even easier way to make you look like a loser. Stop posting.

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        There’s been a tax on the second amendment for decades. Having to pay the fees for licensing, and the classes, means there’s a cost to exercise the right.

        I looked at the receipt for a recent gun purchase, a rifle, and there are zero taxes or fees on it except sales tax which applies to nearly all items (such as video games or automobiles) for sale. There were no required licenses or classes to purchase or own this firearm.

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          in your state. Where I am there are requirements for everything. from buying ammo to getting separate licenses for long guns and pistols.

          the weapon itself is not what I’m talking about. of course that’s taxable.

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            So your beef is with a State (or municipal) government. That isn’t quite the same as a restriction at the Federal level that we’re discussing here.

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              It is though. The constitution is the law and it does give supremacy to the feds. Meaning a state or municipal law gives way to federal laws when there are none.

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                Again, I think this is a tangent, but even you admit that you are able to buy a gun and own in with these taxes in place. Your 2nd Amendment right is clearly intact. There’s no Constitutional right protecting gun ownership from taxation. Where that isn’t the case with voting. The 24th Amendment protects your right to vote without any fee. Gun ownership has no corresponding Constitutional protection.

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                  No. In my state you cannot unless you pay for the classes , fingerprinting and background checks , etc…

                  Do not get me wrong I am for classes , and background checks.

                  I don’t believe those should cost the prospective owner though.

                  Now if there was no cost and those were required, I wouldn’t say a word. I hope my point is a bit clearer

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        I have multiple guns. Never paid for a class, don’t need a license. Only cost was in the guns and ammo. Now, I WAS taught at an early age how to handle guns safely, and am damn near brainwashed to handle them thusly (I never leave a bullet in chamber and I still clear my weapons every time I even touch them.) That said, I do need to stop being a lazy ass and finish building my ak47 instead of leaving it half assembled. Still needs a couple of American parts and I will not risk being dinged with an illegally built firearm.

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        They could do that but besides still being shitty, it may not satisfy the 19th Amendment. The text of the Amendment read:

        • The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of sex. Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

        source

        Making married women jump through the arduous hoops of obtaining a passport card (and indirect costs associated with it such as postage and photography costs) could still be possibly considered “abridged” in violation of this Constitutional Amendment. This is especially true when this new bill effectively singles out married women. Married men don’t have to do any of this so it could also still be a violation on the “on account of sex” portion of the Amendment.

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        How about making Bubba from bumble-fuck Arkansas have to drive to some major city to register for his right to vote?

        See how that can be seen as an undue burden on voting?

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    I love how they never once mention in the article that Republicans wrote the bill, proposed it, and 100% of them voted in favor of it.

    But, despite all that…the headline still reads, “Democrats passed it”.

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      Because we expect that from Republicans. It’s the democrats defecting that is the worrisome part.

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      The fact that Republicans want to take away peoples’ ability to vote isn’t really news, but the fact that any Democrats supported it is.

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        the fact that any Democrats supported it is

        No one paying attention would have expected anything different. Its been 13 years since the VRA was struck down and democrats have done nothing meaningful, other than fundraise, off protecting voting rights. Doing nothing is worse than taking rights.

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      Try to primary them and see how fast the Democratic establishment is to come to their defense. “Democrats” is fair. Not all Democrats, but the party establishment is rotten.

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        Try to primary them and see how fast the Democratic establishment is to come to their defense

        Who fucking cares what the establishment says. The nominees is whoever won the primary vote.

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          Which, far too often, is whomever has the most money. The Democratic establishment and AIPAC have successfully flooded progressives out in several races. It’s not that we can’t win, but it’s clear that the party is against us, which was my point. It’s not just a handful of shitty Democrats we need to replace.

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            The Democratic establishment and AIPAC have successfully flooded progressives out in several races

            At the end of the day, those progressives lost because the voters went the other way. Either there are enough progressive voters in a district or there aren’t. If there are, then they just need to go out and vote and then the money and PACs can get fucked.

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              Thanks for explaining how voting works but ignoring the impact of money is lunacy. There aren’t enough “progressive voters” in any district in the country to win an election. The same can be said about conservative, libertarian, socialist, or MAGA voters. The vast majority of voters are not policy wonks and, if they even claim a political philosophy, they sure can’t explain it.

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        It really shouldn’t be news, but remember…there are most likely a lot of morons out there who would still be shocked to hear about it. The ones who don’t like to talk or read about politics, the uninformed voter. These are Americans we’re talking about.

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          Those people aren’t on Lemmy and they aren’t reading New Republic articles.

          The morons who would be shocked by this news are other Republicans that only consume Republican news sources.

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      Republicans tell us who they are, so theres no need to point out what theyve already told us. Democrats however always claim to hold the high ground as if they are not collaborators in regressive legislation.

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        So the trick to getting away with doing shit like this is to just be open about it? Weird. If that was the case, then why not give these Democrats a pass, as well? They aren’t exactly hiding it either.

        Or are you just getting these four mixed up with the 200 others that didn’t support this legislation?

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          These are the Democrats that will replace Manchin and Semina as the rotating villains once they come back into power.

          ‘We tried, but look what Cuellar did’

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      When are you doing to hold these fucking pro-Trump Democrats accountable? So such of the constant whining and crying every time the Democrats are called out on their bullshit.

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        What’s Anyone doing to hold Republicans accountable?

        The headline should read 216 Republicans ensured passage of this bill.

        My God, part of everything we deal with these days is no one holds Republicans accountable. Media, voters, commenters, etc. Maybe try that for once instead of focusing on 4 Democrats who DON’T MATTER.

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        I’m fine calling out the 2% of Democrats that vote against their own constituents interests. But what I find hilarious, is the total lack of focus on the fact that 100% of Republicans are behind this.

        This is what Chomsky was talking about when he wrote manufacturing consent. The framing here is massively deceptive, to the point of being completely backwards…and folks just eat it up this way. They swallow this narrative whole, and spit it back up for others to swallow.

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        They never will. They will defend them because even when they vote in agreement with stripping the rights of Americans because of Trump, they’re on the blue team, so it’s always valid and justified.

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      I was thinking the same. Like what? 6 dudes didn’t pass the bill, half of your representatives did.

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    But that means something like 204 democrats voted against. Maybe if those 4 hadn’t of supported the bill, it might have failed, but you can’t blame the democrats for a shitty bill when 97% voted against.

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      yeah you can because they need to all be united on this I bet you all the Republicans voted yes all the Democrats should have voted no not that it matters anyways because it would have still passed it’s just a matter of principle I don’t get why you guys don’t understand that it’s quite simple

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    Fun fact: there’s no such thing as a legal name in most states. There’s names you use, names assigned at birth, but no legal name.

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    It’s not these four cowardly DINOs that make me lose faith in this country. It’s the people continuing to defend them.

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        Yep she’s a piece of shit and it’s pissing me off. I get the alternative would have been voting the same but now I have disappointment as well.

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        Yeah, they all suck. Ed Case is a world class piece of shit as he’s representing urban Honolulu, in a SOLIDLY blue district.

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          following in TULSI footsteps, probably wants a deal with the gop down the line.

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      This is why democrats worked so hard to keep coathager cuellar in office. They need people like him to vote how they want.

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      For freedom from having to deal with all the pesky women who vote democrat.

      Although more and more women aren’t changing their name because it’s a stupid tradition, but obviously that skews liberal, so it may be hurting republican women more… Which actually checks out, since republicans generally hurt their own (voting) constituents in favor of their true, rich constituency.

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    im not surprised these DINOs are here, theres like 10 in then senate and probably just as many in the house.