Attorneys for Luigi Mangione asked a judge to stop federal prosecutors from seeking the death penalty against their client, saying the U.S. government “intends to kill Mr. Mangione as a political stunt.”
The motion filed Friday in the U.S. District Court of the Southern District said U.S. Attorney General Pam Bondi ordered the death penalty to “carry out President Trump’s agenda to stop violent crime and Make America Safe Again.”
Mangione, 26, who faces state murder and terrorism charges in New York, along with federal murder and stalking charges, is accused of murdering United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson last year in New York City.
Unproven accusatory public statements by AG Bondi against currently completely innocent Luigi Mangione (in a normal world) should undermine the case against him.
There’s a guy who killed 23 people in a Walmart in El Passo in 2022. Got charged with hate crimes on account of…he’s openly racist and said that’s why he did it.
That guy just got a plea deal to avoid the death penalty.
Nobody should identify the criminal justice system in America as anything else but a mechanism for protecting the rich.
I’ve seen this case mentioned a few times but isn’t this standard practice? Don’t they always use the threat of the death penalty to encourage people to take a plea deal?
Yes, they convince people not to get their whole trial(s) by threatening to kill them.
What was Luigi’s plea offer? I don’t think he was offered one.
thier trying to setup the stage, to poison the jury against him. its a classic tactic when they dont have enough evidence against him.
In that case, the prosecutor was approached by the victims families. They did not want to the death penalty, because it would have meant having a trial until at least 2028.
The case against him is so phony. None of the “evidence” is admissible. There’s a ton of prejudicial statements from the investigators and the prosecutors.
This trial is a sham.
The charges should be dismissed with prejudice.
It is so railroaded by no longer believe Luigi did it.
They’re just pinning it on him as a show to the elites that they are putting on a show for the poors : if you kill one of us we’ll kill you right back.
Ok, I’ll take that deal. One of us for one of them. They’ll run out faster. I can volunteer first if You let me take out Musk.
Blue skies and green lights my friend
In the end, well build a beautiful monument to honor the 1% who died to destroy the Sociopathic Oligarchs. The SOs wont be on that monument, let them build their own, and we can vansalize it routinely.
Oh, yeah, they can’t build their own if they’re all dead and their fortunes confiscated
They wanted to act quick to nip it because people got so happy when that cunt got his comeuppance. It’s gonna backfire
thats why there have been superfluous amount of charges, hopefully they can convince at elast 1 jury group to convict on something. by the way, witty dint even bat an eye he got killed, the head CEO of UHG, neither did hemsley BOD. the wife is estranged from him, and , we discussed on reddit since they are seperate she wont have to fight him on Divorce battle in court.
I was with you for the first sentence, but you lost me at “witty dint.”
The wife. The CEO wife is behind it.
He’s at a hotel early with no security
He got shot dead
His wife has him killed.
It’s not Luigi fighting for the people.
It’s typical rich people shit.
If he is acquitted, expect the MAGA Nazis to raise the stakes, and go with the classic Nazi strategy - you kill one of us, and we choose 10 random innocent people from the community and publicly execute them.
The only good Nazi is dead.
Half of MAGA like him
Remember, if you’re selected for jury duty and you know what Jury Nullification is, NO, YOU DO NOT.
Jury Nullification? I’ve never heard of it, never once, not even in that popular CPG Grey video.
Off topic, so sorry about that… but is there a list of people maintained somewhere that will absolutely never be called for jury duty? If so, I suspected that I’m on it. I thought that by now (age 41), I’d have at least gotten a summons or something to show up at least once. I’ve never even been asked to show up.
I don’t think so. It’s up to the defense and prosecution to veto a possible juror. Not the court itself.
i know some dont, basically leos, family of LEO, lawyers,paralegals are the least likely to get called into jury service, due to thier knowledge of the courts, which might make hard to convince one side over the other. secondly PHDs, MDs are least likely to be selected due to thier professional training at overanalyzing things. these are the people least likely to be chosen, but not 100%. ever since i started voting ever election, ive gotten once a year, sometimes multiple times a year for summons. They look at your voter registration, dmv records.
i once showed for the first time when i was in CC, only because i had school and couldnt have a later date, i was lucky they had no cases that day. ive been mostly dismissed every other time. (one time i forgot).
Isn’t it illegal to lie as a jury member?
I’m the current administration, what is even legal?
That’s a huge point of fascism, they like vague and unclear laws, then you can start justifying harm to anyone.
Remember, if you’re selected for jury duty for a case against a former juror who lied about knowing what Jury Nullification is and you’re asked if you know what Jury Nullification is, NO, YOU DO NOT.
There is the right answer, and there is the correct answer. Give the correct answer. Please don’t fall for this shit that the people in places of power are playing by the rules. They most certainly are not. Is the judge unbiased? In Reno we had a judge stop an approved home construction because he didn’t like that materials were shipped to the lot in sea cans. He lived on the same street. Judges have repeatedly around the country told jurys they are to find the defendant guilty. Police will intentionally tell you things they believe no one else knows about a crime screen, then ask you about it, then when you discuss it on record they ‘‘forget’’ that they told you that off record.
Give the correct answer. And if they say ‘‘oh really well… God’s watching!!’’ Go ahead and say you’re sure the correct answer is correct. And if they say ‘‘here’s proof you have heard of it’’ remember that ‘‘I don’t recall’’ and no other information has kept a lot of very clearly guilty people out of jail for hundreds of years.
Also the whole reason there is a jury?
To counteract the system that one person is the deciding factor. People are imperfect, bribable, blackmailable, make mistakes and have biases.
I have biases, i know some of them and others i am blissfully unaware of, but they are there.And i bet there are a LOT of things about how the system works that lawyers and judges know, but us regular people dont so if we do have an advantage they dont know about then i dont see why we arent allowed to use that tool at our disposal.
They won’t ask you directly about that. What they’ll ask you directly about is whether or not you have any preconceived notions or opinions that would prevent you from deciding fairly. They don’t tell you what fairness means, they expect you to use your own definition.
Exactly. I think jury nullification is perfectly fair. If they ask if I can apply the law without prejudice, yes I can. Jury nullification is part of the law.
How would they know you lied about it?
Where did you hear the phrase “jury nullification”?
If the principal is used but not the words then it can be denied.
Who knows, maybe they found a video blog you made when you were 12 and its, in one of your dad’s books behind you.
For me specifically, that would be impressive since I was 12 in 1988.
Either it’s make america great or safe again, the “america” is never the citizens, it’s always the 1%, notice that?
Definitely. Things politicians say make a lot more sense when you realize that code speak.
It kind of always has been this way. “The people,” “Americans,” “White people,” etc have always been defined arbitrarily, and always in American history have referred to wealthy landowners who adhered to a puritan work ethic and a supposed “Anglo-Saxon” culture.
It’s so sad seeing the poor and lower middle class thinking that it is about them.
even worst that poc, and lgbtq+ think they are one of them too, unless your evil and thiel"rich" you are not one of thier ingroups.
America was safest under Clinton with budget surpluses to boot.
it was instantly trash by GWB jr, setting off the 08 crisis, which some industry dint recover even now, or with diminished returns.
Feels like this case is less about justice and more about setting an example—whether that’s political or public theater. Death penalty or not, the timing and narrative definitely feel curated.
it was apparent it was more political, and example the moment the witchhunt began. especially with the clown adams escorting his perpwalk.
The first time i saw that perp walk photo, it had a caption like “Jesus walking to appear before Pilate, accompanied by the Roman Praetorian Guard.” And that was EXACTLY what it looked like.
I love it when their clumsy propaganda gets stolen by the Resistance.
Absolutely. This will be a show trial that will eclipse even the OJ trial, and will lead to a lot of civil unrest, whether he’s found guilty or not.
We the people should just nullify any jury and break our boy out. Fuck the police. They would kill anyone given the opportunity.
Nah, then he’s a fugitive forever.
All that is required is for one juror to say that they cant identify him from the shooting video, so they have reasonable doubt, and stand on the courage of their convictions (a poor word choice in this context, but all i could think of).
They would have to also reject the supposed corroborating “evidence” as well, like DNA they found at the scene, but there is a high likelihood that was planted, certainly high enough that there is reasonable doubt there as well. Nobody trusts NYC cops, or the Sociopathic Oligarchs who are demnding justice for one of their own, who is a Corporate Serial Killer for Profit, responsible for the deaths and suffering of thousands of people who purchased his fraudulent service/ product. They will pay anything to send a message to the poors to stay in line, and do what they are told.
If i was a juror, i could easily find him not guilty, and it wouldn’t even be jury nullification. Its just an incredibly weak case, built on propaganda.
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Wouldn’t double jeopardy apply here?
Double jeopardy only applies on same jurisdiction (state and federal are separate) and upon acquittal in same jurisdiction. State can’t try twice, and federal can’t try twice.
That certainly violates the spirit of the law.
Not if the charges are brought by separate entities. State prosecutors are entirely separate from federal prosecutors, which means you can be hit with charges from both.
Arson, murder and jaywalking
They want to silence him, but I don’t think they will be able to.
They may succeed in silencing him, but they will never silence his supporters, which grow by the day. He is already a martyr.
trying to make it intimidating by having officer standing extremely close to him, like smelling his hairl.
If he gets sentenced to dearh, this country absoluteIy will not be “safe again”.
I’m not trying to instigale anything. Just making a logical prediction in minecraft.
He won’t be getting a jury of his peers. It will be a corrupt kangaroo court
He’s so dreamy, my Luigi could do no wrong
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