As fascism rears it’s ugly head, the Democratic Party says bow down and let it happen.

  • CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world
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    All good points and that’s why I said it’s not perfect. But Colorado does have a “shall issue” directive for CWP’s and I haven’t heard of any issues with that over the years. I myself have had one for 20+ years and renewals in different counties without issue. I would think they would continue the “shall issue” policy for this as well. Most Colorado Sheriffs are Red.

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      And for those of us who’s county sheriff won’t? The state already said they don’t know what the required training will be. This particular law has so many issues. The new permitting system (that you have go through before you’re allowed to take the class) has to be ran and funded by Colorado Parks and Wildlife, who is already severely underfunded already. The law says they don’t get any extra funding, and that the permits will pay for the system. But a Colorado Open Records Act revealed that they already predicted there will not be enough permits to take a class to fund the system. This law in particular is not about preventing gun violence and other crimes.

      In CO, we already have to pay a sin tax on parts, ammo, and guns, on top of the sales tax and federal excise tax. All that tax money The sin tax money goes to a fund that can be used to fund mental health services for veterans, but most of it has to fund school security. Aka, cops.

      I don’t believe at all this law is about preventing violence, when all it does is add a big financial barrier to lawful firearm ownership. If you steal a gun in Colorado, unless it’s a real fancy one, it’s just a misdemeanor.

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        I understand where you’re coming from. Used to feel the same. But now I just think my right to walk into Bobs Bait Shack and Firearms and buy a rifle is worth less than people’s right to not be shot on the street or in school by people our mental health system has failed.

        Everyone will come down on a different side of that. But I think it’s a good discussion.

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          I just don’t see how making lawful gun ownership more expensive prevents bad people from doing bad things with guns.

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          It’s interesting to see this post and you’re comment because just recently I was thinking about how I’d gladly give up guns and my 2nd amendment right if it meant we could have gun control and gun crime similar to that of the UK or Japan instead of what we have today.

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          I thought the point of the right to bear arms was about freedom. If you need consent from a sheriff and it’s based on their feelings, it’s giving them freedom to take rights away.

          Don’t get me wrong, I’m not a US citizen and guns are banned here, but the main reason for it seems to be playing out, and taking those freedoms away could be massively dangerous. More so than the threat of gun violence right now. How could any opposition defend themselves being shipped off to El Salvador en masse if a secretary of state things you contradict foreign policy goals?