Is there some sort of secret? No matter what sensitivity my mouse is set to I seem to get stuck when turning. On a controller I can turn completely in a circle, but not with a mouse unless i’m missing something. I’m willing to accept that I might be an idiot. But seriously how to people do it? It just feels so unatural. Sorry if this is a dumb question, because I think it’s a dumb question too.
There’s no real secret other than to just play games and get used to it. FPS may or may not be the best choice for this. You could also play other games like strategy or city builders instead.
My sensitivity is so if I drag my mouse straight to either side, I’ll do about 7 or 8 full spins by the time I get to the end of my mat.
Thats crazy how much the preferences differ. I do like 2 spins with my big ass mousepad.
From left to right i do a 180 lol depends what kind of games you play
I don’t like to have to do that swing move that streamers and other hardcore gamers use. I like to use as little arm movement as possible
Its only an issue if you play like 8+ hours every day. For small movements most people use their wrist and that fucks your joints if you do it enough. That is one of the reasons for why pro players do it.
For the most part, it’s just like how you learned to be good with a controller: experience. The more you use the mouse the better you get. You brain just learns that this amount of movements equals roughly this distance moved on the screen.
For a lot of people, disabling mouse acceleration helps with precision. By default there’s an acceleration curve, so you move the mouse faster and the cursor goes even faster, disabling it makes it so the cursor tracks the mouse precisely. It can make it harder to do a 360 though, as acceleration can help get the speed needed. Dial in your sensitivity settings to where it feels comfortable for aiming, because if you make the sensitivity too much for the 360 it’ll be really hard to aim with any sort of accuracy.
There’s a rhythm game called Osu! if you want to stress test your mouse accuracy.
This is how M+KB natives feel on controller.
You will get used to it if you keep playing, but it might never feel natural unless you use it exclusively for a while.
I’m a trackball + keyboard user so mouse + kb and controller both feel sort of almost right but somehow wrong to me
Also some genres lend themselves better to one or the other. I prefer controller for platformers and fighters, but prefer TB + KB for almost everything else
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Also some genres lend themselves better to one or the other. I prefer controller for platformers and fighters, but prefer TB + KB for almost everything else
Yeah, I agree. I use a controller for platformers, fighting games and racing games. Also sometimes action RPGs- I’ve played Dark Souls with both input methods.
My only absolutely hard line is using a controller for any kind of shooter. I just can’t, and trying is a very frustrating experience.
Turn off mouse acceleration in windows, it’s called enhance pointer accuracy or something stupid. Set your mouse DPI to 400 or 800 in its software and get a decent sized mouse pad, Adjust your in game sensitivity to the point a natural arc of your arm does a full 180. After that it’s all practice
There are 3 way you can be better at aiming with a mouse:
Disable acceleration (enhanced pointer precision)
Lower your sensitivity
Use a lighter mouse
Past that, it’s practice, practice and more practice. If you only recently moved over to M+KB, you haven’t developed the muscle memory. Start with games that just require you to click on things, like Civ games or Stardew Valley, and games that don’t require rapid movements, like Portal.
Play a less demanding single player game to get used to the mouse. I’m not sure how it handles mouse and keyboard, but I’m thinking something like Ratchet and Clank.
I’m actually trying an indie horror game called DreadOut: Keepers of the Dark because my controller won’t work for some reason. I have been reccommended Ratchet and Clank: Rift Apart before. Maybe it’s a sign to play the game.
They’re all great. If you can get your hands on the originals, they hold up well. But don’t play the remake of 1 from a few years ago.
Playing a horror might not be the best to start with.
Edit: Third person view in some games might be really awkward with mouse and keyboard. Especially older games can be clunky af.
I would strongly recommend that a single player RPG would be the best. My first mouse and keyboard games were fallout New Vegas ultimate edition and fallout 3 of the year edition. I would recommend if you buy either of those. They are wonderful games and very easy to mod.
No matter what sensitivity my mouse is set to I seem to get stuck when turning. On a controller I can turn completely in a circle, but not with a mouse unless i’m missing something.
are you using running in circles as a benchmark? as a one continuous loop that is not going to happen with a mouse unless you have infinite desk and arm lengh. Generally mouse users do circles in segments: turn a bit, move mouse back to center and repeat as nescessary.
If you’ve mostly used controlles, yea, m+kb is going to feel unnatural. Same applies in reverse too. Different worlds - it can take quite some time to get familiar with the other.
Practice/getting used to it
Also since you are learning try low sensitivity + moving your arm instead of high sensitivity + wrist movements
Practice
Practice
Always solid advice. Thy will be done.
So with mice, you have a center position you return to after every move. From that position, ideally you should be able to turn your character between 270°- 180° degrees with a single swipe.
You’ll want to use a mouse with an at least 1000 hz polling rate. They can be found online for less than $30. There are websites to test polling rates.
I recommend a DPI of 800. 1200± DPI will often make your sensitivity way to high, even if you lower the in game sensitivity. 400 DPI has more hitches.
Turn off mouse acceleration in windows.
Make sure the sensor in the mouse and the mouse pad is clean.
Lighting round: light weight mice are preferred. 8000hz is better that 1000hz polling, but not by much and uses a lot of CPU usage and requires correct USB support. Don’t aim at the enemy, aim where they are going to be. Warming up a bit does help your aim. You don’t need to spend a lot of money to get the best gear or to have fun.
Useful mouse comparisons. https://www.rtings.com/
There is a mouse pad compare website, but I can’t find it.
There’s aim trainer games to practice mouse speed and accuracy.
edit: aimlabs on steam.
Practice
Are you using mouse only? On my controller I usually use both analog sticks to move and turn the screen at the same time which allows quick rotation if necessary. Same applies imho to mouse and keyboard. I use the mouse to turn the screen and wasd to turn my character which at least for me leads to the same result.
There’s no point… You’ll be back on controller once the carpal tunnel sets in lol
I thought it was funny 🤷♂️
