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    It’s about sending a message. What’s silly is that this will actually encourage the most desperate to go to greater lengths. What do you do when you have nothing to lose? Whatever the fuck you feel like

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      Yep. Give it a few more months and a lot of people the idiots in charge have been mass firing will be at the end of their rope, having lost everything to debt/foreclosure/bankruptcy. We’ll see more of this violence before things change.

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    get in loser we’re having a jury nullification party

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    It’s actually good that the US is trying to be harsher about it. Seems unlikely the jury will conclude the crime warrants that punishment, leading to a not guilty (since the jury only gets to say guilty or not) and no double jeopardy. IMO this is actually how Luigi will avoid much, if any, prison time, like with the Casey Anthony case. Happens with other murders where the prosecution fucks up by demanding a harsh conviction where there is too much doubt or mitigating factors. They get greedy, and lose the entire case.

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      Unfortunately, punishments (except the death penalty) may not be considered when determining guilt in trials by jury.

      While it will be tough to find people who don’t know anything about this, the courts will be able to find an impartial jury, and one that likely doesn’t follow the news or know of the potential punishment.

      It will never be stated to the jury, and technically no jury member is allowed to mention it if they do know it.

      The terrorism charges on the other hand will be extremely difficult to prove. And that might be what frees him.

      Edit: This comment has been corrected by the person below. The death penalty decision comes as a secondary trial after a defendant has been found guilty. Source: https://www.justice.gov/usao/justice-101/sentencing

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        And that’s a big problem with our system, in that if you happen to have the misfortune of being involved in a high profile case, you have to be judged by uninformed idiots.

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          Jury members are typically highly capable of reasoning and understanding as they are carefully chosen from a large pool of candidates. They tend to be highly educated professionals (for many reasons, not just because lawyers choose them) who just also happen to not closely follow news, politics, or be chronically online. They likely know about some guy killed a healthcare CEO a few months ago, but there knowledge of the situation is only surface level and not influenced by media biases. This makes them best able to form rational conclusions as a result of the trial.

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          Yeah, let’s jury select a bunch of hick ass yokels, who don’t read the news, who don’t know shit about anything, so we can convince them to vote the way we want.

          Is that really a jury of your peers? No.

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    The prosecutor of the Texas case said he would have loved to give the guy the death penalty. But that would delay the start of the trial to 2028 and apparently the relatives of the victims approached him and requested a plea deal, to avoid a prolonged trial.

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    I think this is pretty routine in America isn’t it? People will accept a lot when the alternative is death.

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    Pardon my ignorance, but what’s the offering in the plea deal? Plead guilty and we won’t recommend death penalty, or is it something else?

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      The DA said it’s a guilty plea in exchange for them not seeking the death penalty. My understanding is that the judge can still reject such a deal, however. Since the DA said it’s at the request of most victims’ families involved, I’m guessing the judge would accept.