• RageAgainstTheRich@lemmy.world
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    I really don’t get it either. Trump can say something and his supporters will believe him no matter what.

    He could tell a supporter their child is a demon, shoot the kid in the face and they would thank him for it.

    I have no idea what to do about it.

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      Trump can say something and his supporters will believe him no matter what.

      Liberals do the same shit with their politicians. BlueMAGA has the same capacity for reasoning and insight that MAGA does.

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        You are not well informed whatsoever. Democrats turn on bad actors in their party in a heartbeat. To their own detriment even. Look where Al Franken is right now.

        Go read more.

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          Al franken was low hanging fruit. The oligarchy will never turn on their own, which includes trump.

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            Do you know what an Oligarchy is? Follow up question: could you let Bernie, Cortez, and Crockett know? They don’t seem to be up to date on this either.

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              I and the sheepdogs you mentioned know what an oligarchy is. The difference is they only claim other groups are an oligarchy, implying they are not.

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                I don’t think you can really make the argument subjective when the people in power are billionaires and Fox News personalities. What in the world…

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                  The billionaires have always been in power, regardless if its behind the scenes like it’s been in the past or in the spotlight like they are now

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        Do they? Sure, Bernie supporters love to sniff his farts, but they’re not making him the center of their conspiracy theories and there’s no indication they’d believe him if he said 2+2=5. And no one’s getting this excited over Harris, Biden, Warren, Buttigieg, etc.

        We need to stop pretending both sides are basically the same. They’re not. They were in the 90s, when it was Clinton vs. Bush. They were pre-Trump, with people like Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz. But Trump is in a league of his own, and there is not a liberal equivalent of MAGA right now.

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          I was told by liberals that I should stop worrying about Gazan children for more than a year while Biden and Democrats happily gave Israel the money and guns to kill them

          Now they tell me Trump is bad for his support of Israel

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            Democrat voters were the only ones denouncing Israel.

            The choice was made clear in all social media and publicly by all Democrat and Republican politicians.

            Vote Democrat if you want to support Palestinians and condemn Israel while continuing to allow Israel to buy weapons.

            Vote Republican if you want to exterminate all Palestinians. Trump promised in speeches to wipe out all Palestinians.

            You might not like either choice but the two sides were not the same.

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              Wha?

              Any time I criticized Biden admin for giving arms to Israel, I was told “he’s trying to end it” or “just vote Harris”

              I criticized Harris for not making herself meaningfully different from Biden on the genocide issue. People here told me to shut up and stop complaining about it. People here even said I was in a minority for caring so much about Gaza and that it didn’t matter that much

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                As I said, he was trying to end it but without stopping the sale of arms. It’s not like Israel even needs any those weapons to starve Palestine.

                And when the alternative is Trump who promised to exterminate all Palestinians, yes you should shut up because it made fence sitters not vote for Harris.

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            That’s not the equivalent at all. That’s pro-Zionism, and has been the US party line for decades. Biden even admitted that back in the 1980s.

            How on Earth are you equating that to MAGA?

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          As Republicans keep shifting to the right, Democrats fill the void just left by Republicans. Democrats are BlueMAGA, the only difference is a Republican will tell us what they are gonna do, then do it. Democrats talk about opposition, but end up enabling right wing policy and lock it in place with their ratchet effect.

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          We need to stop pretending both sides are basically the same. They’re not.

          Only lazy, ignorant people who think they are sounding smart say this.

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        Liberals I know are spitting in Schumer’s face. When Eric Adams committed a crime, he needed to beg maga to help, not “bLuEmAGa”. The blue was bringing him to court no matter what. No one loved Biden no one loves a majority of liberal politicians.

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          Right now they are spitting in Schumer’s face but will quickly forget that in a month or so, and will gladly cast a vote for him when he’s up for reelection. And anyone bringing up what he’s done will be labeled a bot, trying to get Republicans elected, or whatever the current buzz words are.

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        They really don’t. I am a leftist, not a liberal. But i see liberals constantly denounce and get angry at democrats. Bluemaga is not a thing… Of course there are a couple of liberals that defend biden or whatever. There are idiots in every group whether its politics, anime, music, gaming, whatever.

        But it’s not a THING like with maga. Maga will die for their fuhrer. They believe everything he says. Trump is their hero and savior.

        You’re being ridiculous on purpose.

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          They may get performative angry, but end up supporting them when it’s election time. BlueMAGA is very much a thing.