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    A relative bright spot amidst a sea of bad news:

    "Bottled water alone can expose people to nearly as many microplastic particles annually as all ingested and inhaled sources combined,” said Brandon Luu, an Internal Medicine Resident at the University of Toronto. “Switching to tap water could reduce this exposure by almost 90%, making it one of the simplest ways to cut down on microplastic intake.”

    Dunno if anyone reading this is still drinking bottled water, but, uh, now you have another reason to not do that.

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      This would mean any liquid in plastic is a large source. Bottled water has other options, not so much the rest. I mean they could have different packaging and some do, but cost is a reason plastic is primarily used.

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        glass bottled soda > canned soda > plastic contained soda or fountain drinks

        … maybe we will end up with a bottlecap psuedo currency after all.

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          Aluminum cans have a plastic liner in them to protect the metal from the acidic soda, but I’m not sure if it leaches in the same way as plastic bottles.

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        Especially things with carbonic or citric acid are probably even worse here

        Edit: and we need to keep in mind, the aluminium cans also have a plastic liner inside. So those probably aren’t better either…

        Shit thing, that glass is so heavy to move around.
        And pretty much everything is stored in large plastic containers during production, until it’s filled into whatever.

        Not sure how we can actually get around this.
        The best thing we can do, is probably just reducing the plastic intake, by avoiding plastic bottles, as they are much more prone to decay due to UV light and long term storage.

        But well, I guess, we’re fucked here as well

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          I got a soda stream with glass bottles. You can make soda from fruit (lemons and oranges are especially delicious - plus I can control whatever sweetener I use). Also, if you really want cola, then you can get concentrated syrup so there’s less plastic and liquid transport overall.

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            Yeah, having the same thing at home

            But I still like beer, fruit juices (and not just syrups) and so on

            But the soda stream is quite in use by my wife

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            I wish it were easier to find name-brand cola syrup in larger sizes than those 14.8 fl oz Sodastream ones. Seems like bag-in-box syrups are only sold to actual business owners, not the general public.

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        On average, disposable plastic bottles shed microplastics much more prolifically than plastic water piping.

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          That would seem to be the explanation on the face of it. Piping is made from heavier duty plastic. But I’ve heard that PVC can start leaking some nasty chemicals over the decades. Is that better or worse than microplastics?

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        You have to remember that plastic containers aren’t washed before they are filled with product. That’s often where much of the micro/nano plastics come from.

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            It’s been no secret for years now that nanoplastics are lurking in bottled water and in products packaged or wrapped in other kinds of plastic. But new research has called attention to just how big an issue these particles may be.

            A study published in January 2024 used new methods to analyze just how many nanoplastic particles really are floating around in the average plastic bottle of water. They found that a liter of bottled water can contain as many as 240,000 tiny plastic fragments. That number is 10 to 100 times more than previous estimates.

            https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2300582121

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        I started putting aluminum foil, folded a few times to the size of a typical card, in my wallet, in each flap… a year or two after credit and debit cards started getting RFID chips (the things that let you tap as oppose to swipe), and thus could be scanned and cloned by a guy walking around with a device in their backpack… and one of my cards was cloned this way.

        Everyone called me paranoid.

        Faraday cages block radio signals… RFID works via radio signals.

        Then, that form of cloning cards became more popular, and now, most wallets just feature a bit of metallic weave or layer in them somewhere to prevent that, or the ekster and ridge wallets that just are metal.

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      And what about plastic bottles. Like, not the packaging type but just plastic reusable waterbottles?

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        They are bad.

        Get a ceramic mug, or canteen/water bottle with an aluminum or stainless steel internal lining, drink your tap water out of that, filter it if your tap quality sucks.

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          is aluminum a good idea? I remember reading that lots of years ago the use of aluminum cutlery contributed to developing dementia

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      Unless you live in one of the many countries without potable drinking water…also do you think the micro plastics are filtered out? I’m actually asking if they’re filtered out

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        As far as I know, off the top if my head, there are not any affordable, attach to the tap in your sink type filters that actually filter out microplastics.

        I may be out of date on that, been about 2 years since I last looked at filters… but yeah, afaik, we have no idea how to effectively filter out microplastics from water at an end user standpoint, as we do for other, older, mkre commonly worried about water pollutants.

        … I guess if you fully boiled all your water to the point it is all steam, and then condenses back ti water, in a glass or metal recepticle, that might do something for reducing microplastics, but that is insanely energy and time intensive.

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          I hope you’re right …but also how much water/soda do we drink out of plastic without even thinking about it?

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      I assume soda and other bottled drinks are included in this warning, as well as any other container lined with plastic, and I think some canned drinks and food are….which, uh, sucks.

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        Yes but to a much lesser extent. The act of merely breaking the seal on the cap injects a lot of plastic into the liquid, so skipping that has to count for something

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            You’re right, I misremembered It’s not just about breaking the seal on the cap, the mere friction of the cap on the bottle adds the bulk of microplastics found within

            I was thinking of an article from years ago where they were talking about macro plastics nearly visible to the eye getting into the liquid from breaking the seal. Can’t seem to find it now though

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      Does anyone knows of those brita filters that’s pretty much a plastic jar would leak as much microplastics as a regular bottle of water?