And I’m sure it’s annoying you too. You can’t view a single YouTube video anymore anywhere one is posted, without that stupid notification popping up. Which forces you to have to go to the shitty YouTube site, log in, hope through whatever verification checks that there is and finally, you can watch the video.
Isn’t there a way anymore where people can just link videos and for them to play? Fuck you, Google.
Free VPNs will get that a lot.
Even in paid VPNs, you still have to change servers until you find one that works.
Proton VPN (despite CEO controversies) is probably the best one to get around that, since they have 11000 servers.
I am less annoyed by YouTube being shit and more annoyed by 3rd party websites clinging to YouTube for their video hosting needs because it is free. I’m also annoyed by the degree to which scrappers and other automation tools have made “Are You A Bot?” filters necessary to conserve the (relatively) limited resources of big retail web front-ends.
Like, fuck YouTube, sure. But they’re not putting these blocks up for the thrill of it. They’re trying to limit served content to actual humans rather than automated engines intended to juice view counts and harvest “free” data for AI training.
When I was signing up for something, (maybe Lemmy?) I got caught in a CAPTCHA where I had to identify street lights. Every time I clicked one the picture would change and there would be more street lights. Eventually I gave up, clicked Submit and it let me in.
Yeah I hate that too. For me it’s always bicycles, buses or motorcycles. All the fucking time.
Meanwhile, at least 90 percent of comments on Youtube are made by bots.
On the Internet, 90 percent of statistics are made up.
Dead internet theory is real, at least on youtube.
Its a self-perpetuating cycle. Set aside the normally deplorable state of YouTube comments. Once you hit a critical mass of “Neat!” and “I liked it 💖🇺🇸🎆” and “Prussy en bi0” comments, why the hell would you bother reading much less participating? Then human interactions tank and its Oops! All Bots! in short order.
Anybody know the difference between FreeTube, LibreTube, and NewPipe? Are there even more?
These are all unique and different projects with their own codebases, devs and issues. If you want to learn more, try searching for their official git repos. If you want to see a quick list of YouTube related apps, with screenshots, feature lists, and links to the project pages then I suggest using F-Droid with the
IzzyOnDroid F-Droid Repoenabled, and just searchingyoutube.For a bit more details on how yo do that check out my other comment https://lemmy.world/comment/15622037.
Ok. I wanna make this happen on Android. I am a complete dummy and the only thing I ever got off github had like step by step written instructions somewhere. What do I do?
Do I just download the freetube-0.23.2.13-Android.apk (latest release) from the releases site… Or do I need to build it first or something from the link you provided? Building it seems extremely daunting.
You can totally just install the latest release straight from the git repository. However, how often will you remember to check if there is a new release? If you want your apps to stay up-to-date you have 2 options. (Ordered from least effort to most effort)
- F-Droid (minimal setup, slower releases)
- Install F-Droid or one of the many 3rd party clients (I like Droid-ify the most right now)
- enable the
IzzyOnDroid F-Droid Repoin the Repository settings of the F-Droid client - install FreeTube Android
- Obtainium (moderate setup, quickest releases)
- Install the latest release of Obtainium directly from the git repo
- go to app configurations search for Obtainium and click on the
add to Obtainiumbutton so that Obtainium can update itself when there is a new release. - In Obtainium, click on
Add App. Then insert the release page URL for FreeTube Android (https://github.com/MarmadileManteater/FreeTubeAndroid/releases) as the value forApp Source URL, then click theAddbutton next to it and you are set.
You are amazing! Thank you so much! Cowabunga!
Interesting, I do use Freetube on laptop but it’s been finicky about when it wants to work lately. I figured it was more of YT blocking bs.
I tried Newpipe for Android and it wouldn’t work, so I went to the fork PipePipe which does work better, but at some point I had to login so it could use my API because YT blocked that too. Plus PipePipe can scan NicoNico videos and Bilibili videos.
How good is Freetube on android?
I love it and yes, sometimes youtube makes a breaking change that any dev needs to find a work around for.
I use freetube on both because I can manage subscriptions better on it, and export to newpipe or freetube desktop easily. Freetube also includes sponsor block which is great.
I also keep newpipe on my phone as a backup since sometimes it works when freetube doesn’t. I auto-update freetube from fdriod but let obtainum auto-update newpipe straight from their git repo so I know I got a good chance if having at least one working app.
I haven’t tried pipepipe, it’s been a long time since I watched a billibilli vid. (BGM!!!)
This is the way.
Are you a bot? Because that’s the kind of post a bot would do.
You’re in violation of the 84’ treaty on account of illegal thoughts.
Beep Boop.
…and that’s exactly what a bot would SAY!
Captchadgot them!
I was trying to recover my Steam password last night and failed so many of those “check all the boxes with MOTORCYCLES” that it stopped even letting me try anymore. Fucking broken bullshit.
I’ve failed those before, probably because I move rather mechanically. I’ve tried deliberately putting delays and random mouse movements while don’t them.
Lol I’ve had the same thought. On ones that make you click all the squares that have a bike or whatever, I always click a wrong one and then unselect it. Ya, that’s totally human behavior now.
Bots are a problem. No single measure completely gets rid of them. Each measure just removes some of the bots. I personally think accounts are a decent measure, everyone should have a password manager anyway that lets them automatically log in on all their devices.
The problem of course is the tracking that’s being done with the accounts, but I think the accounts themselves aren’t the problem.
That’s part of it, but it’s certainly ALSO a mechanism to encourage people to use an account, or to register if they haven’t, because that’s more trackable and monetisable.
Same reason why when you hit an X post or an Instagram post it normally lets you see a little tease but roadblocks you to sign in as soon as you start scrolling. They want you signed in for their own reasons.
If google wanted, they could implement a range of measures to disincentivise bots, like not counting views apart from signed-in users so there’s less reason for bots to be engaging with the platform, but that also is bad for their ad view monetisation metrics so they surely don’t want to do that. They’d rather inconvenience the user.
So I say tracking is the problem, and you say that tracking is the problem? Good that we agree :D
Then why the fuck do some sites require a CAPTCHA before letting me log in?
Because like I said, different measures hold back different bots.
If there are 3 bot softwares, maybe 1 can solve captcha and use accounts, 1 can only make accounts, 1 can only use captcha.
With only account login you get 2 bots, with only captcha you also get 2 bots, with captcha before login you only get 1 bot.
Excuse me but what sort of DDOS is being mitigated by requiring a CAPTCHA before allowing login?
That’s giving a middle finger to your existing users right at the front door.
Authenticating a registered user is so quick there’s no good excuse except laziness and indifference to user experience.
The DDOS of having your users scammed, spammed, them seeing illegal/harmful content, propaganda, whatever bots do.
Trying to get rid of bots is a worthwhile endeavor. How exactly you do it, and I criticize captchas as well, is up to debate, yes. But dismissing it completely just means you haven’t really noticed what those measures do. It’s like an IT department that just works and that management thinks is unnecessary.
Piped is working again. I use it and Newpipe
I use revanced and nexttube
But do either of them allow like embedded links to be shared?
Is this new? Perhaps geographic testing in certain areas? I’m not sure if I’ve ever seen that on youtube. Just curious, what happens for you if you open a browser in Incognito go to youtube and without logging in to youtube, go to the video you want to watch?
In incognito or private browsing mode, you are way more likely to be blocked or forced to fill out a captcha, because the site won’t see any tracking cookies you would otherwise have.
To Google, preserving your privacy looks the same as being a bot. Using a VPN, clearing cookies, using private browsing, being signed out of a Google account, are all things that improve your privacy but look like bot activity. Google can use the excuse of blocking bots when their actual goal is tracking.
In incognito or private browsing mode, you are way more likely to be blocked or forced to fill out a captcha, because the site won’t see any tracking cookies you would otherwise have.
I use youtube almost exclusively in incognito and I never get the captcha. The only negative consequence is no suggested videos show up. It looks like this:
However, as soon as you watch even a single video, it gives suggestions based upon that. As soon as you close all your incognito windows, it wipes the slate clean and opening a new window and going back to youtube just gives you the screenshot I linked here. I don’t have a youtube “feed” and I like that. Again, zero captchas.
