• ERROR: Earth.exe has crashed@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    2 days ago

    Yes, they are legally obliged to disobey illegal orders.

    But ultimately, its the judicial system that would decide if their refusal of the orders were acceptable or not.

    Soldier facing a court-martial in the US get a panel of their peers, similar to a jury. So their peers could, in theory, do a “jury nullification”.

    But, in a court martial, only 3/4 is required to convict, and a general court-martial, where death penalty is not a possible punishment, it requires only 8 members. So you need 3 of the 8 to even try to hang the jury, you need 6 of the 8 to acquit.

    (Not a legal expert, just googled it)

    There is zero chance that the current composition of the US military will invade Canada.

    They’ll need a lot of military purges, and then take like a decade to use propaganda to turn the people against Canadians.

    And given the long friendship between USA and Canada, this is very unlikely to happen.

    Americans would riot, soldiers to refuse orders. The entire military would splinter into Pro-Constitution and Pro-Maga. A civil war would be fought before the battle ever reached Canada

    The Pro-Constitution side would get help from Canada (obviously), so will many European countries.

    Russia would probabbly help the Pro-Maga side.

    I think China would just not get involved, and focus on their own thing: Taiwan.

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      7 hours ago

      Ahh, but you’re missing the bigger part of the equation: one of Trump’s first EOs this time was the requirement, by April 20, for the Pentagon to put together a recommendation on whether or not to utilize the Insurrection Act to declare martial law. I, and most others, are thinking this is purely a formality with the departmental purges - and once he’s done that, it hardly matters whether you like them invading Canada or not.

      Now, THAT BEING SAID, the military already has a manpower issue, has for a decent while. I do not think we could effectively lock down a country the size of the US, or even the major metros on both coasts, AND fight a war of invasion. Even unofficially deputizing all the various militia types, AND bringing local/state PDs and Nat Guard under federal control, I don’t think they have enough.

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      13 hours ago

      In Canada we generally believe there will be some form of invasion or annexation within the decade. Maybe y’all think it won’t or can’t but it will.