We were complicit in letting people bully trudeau out of office. But honestly how could any Canadian with half a brain not see that the liberals led by Mark Carney is the best choice for us in this Turbulent time. I could never see the Conservatives showcasing their values like this, it just screams Canada

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    Between Carney and Poilievre there is no contest. However, it is important to say that from what we’ve seen, Carney’s policies will not fix the deep problems facing the country. There is nothing there about reducing wealth inequality via taxing the rich, nothing about non-market housing, nothing about ending the oil-and-car economy, nothing about Land Back. And yea, I know those are left wing policies and he’s a centrist but that’s exactly my point, what we actually need is ecosocialism.

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      Pretty much this. The best thing about him is that he isn’t Poilievre.

      But Carney appears to be a relatively right-leaning Liberal. Shrinking the federal government is fine, I guess; cutting taxes for might be boutique tax cuts for the rich - I didn’t see specifics; his housing policy seems to rely heavily on the private sector, which is pretty similar to everyone else’s (and doesn’t seem great, tbh).

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    Stepping down can sometimes be the real power move in politics, and for a politician that had quite few power moves for such a long tenure, this was one of Trudeau’s.

    And between the potential leaders, Carney is the only one that has a clear vision for the future on top of a plan to make it happen. While I don’t agree with half of the stuff he’s about, that’s a million times better than a man more interested in causing division amongst Canadians when faced with an external threat, spineless coward that flip flops depending on what he things gets him political points, or people who have zero chance of gaining enough seats to make a serious change.

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      Spitting facts right there sir hell yeah. Carney’s own platform has so much detail in is that even half of it getting implemented would be fucking great right now. We need an economist to help restructure our provincial economies into one

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        Honestly he might. He’s young and right when he resigned I was ashamed people pushed him to because I said mark my words people will want him back in a months time and look at it now lol

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    Nah, Trudeau had to go. He had made many mistakes over the years, often stupid ones. He reneged on electoral reform. He didn’t do anything substantive to alleviate the housing crisis. In fact how government did a few things to make it worse. He let Ford squander the $10 child care program in Ontario. And so on.

    I voted Liberal in all the elections he ran in since that was the ABC choice in my riding, I appreciate the positive contributions he made, such as the pandemic response. However there are serious issues that were ignored and they became unignorable. People are lining up behind Carney because they see someone who says things that sound like he can begin solving these problems. Unlike Trudeau or Poilievre. I don’t think Trudeau was malicious or profiting of any of the mistakes, but mistakes were made.

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        I don’t, I didn’t try listing all the good and bad achievements. I intended to say he did plenty of things to deserve people’s ire, not that he didn’t do anything good.

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      How would you suggest that he solve the housing crisis after years of inaction by the premiers (who are responsible for housing) and then letting In so many foreign students so they could reduce education spending?

      The liberals injected 4 billion dollars into the housing accelerator fund to help after years of inaction by the premiers.

      COVID cost a lot and it def exasperated the housing crisis and I think right now Carney is the best thing to replace him with to restructure our economy inside out. Keep everything we gained with JT and pivot to get our economy balanced to then pivot back forward. In the grand scheme of things JT was kneecapped by very hostile premiers.

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        They could have used a lot more stick to premiers backs. They started working with municipalities very recently. Housing was a problem even in 2015. They could have gotten back into building housing as far back as 2016.

        The federal government let the students in, not provinces. Provinces just took advantage. Trudeau’s government could have increased university and college funding instead, along with publicly tarring and feathering bastards like Ford who cut the funding. Something which Carney has said he’ll do. The funding, not the tar-feathering.

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          Well when you want to be a province ans be a big boy and handle your own shit with no federal interference, that’s what they did. The premiers said “we need x amount of students/immigrants this year” and the feds would say ok. Then when they recently throttled the immigration the premiers cried out “BuT ThIs HuRtS OuR LabOur ForCe”.

          Like everything else they just let the problem fester until it got so bad they needed big daddy feds to handle the problem.