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    It’s horrifying that she’s jailed for having been attacked. What the fuck is wrong with you, Arizona?

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    Thanks for posting this, I hope more people hear about this story and Epona’s able to raise the $500k for bail and more to get a good defense team

    Also, to put that bail amount in perspective - Andrew Lester (the guy who shot Ralph Yarl in the head) only had to post $200k.

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    I don’t care if you don’t like guns. Arm up, learn to shoot, and protect yourselves out there. One political side has been stockpiling for decades (it’s even part of their culture) while the other side is willingly disarming themselves.

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      Curious how that would help here?

      She got arrested for being the victim. If she shoots her attacker do you think the cops wouldn’t have still arrested her?

      Unless you meant protect ourselves from the cops, but running gun battles with the cops isn’t going to help anyone.

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        The presence of a firearm itself may have been enough to make them think twice. I mean, do you normally try to assault someone who’s visibly carrying?

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            Get assaulted, raped, possibly killed? Or deal with the arrest and after math of having defended yourself from such. I know which one I’d choose.

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              I’m sorry, but I hate this argument… because it’s crock.

              Attackers generally do not telegraph their intentions. They often come on suddenly and unexpectedly. I’ve been assaulted before and could not have defended myself even if I wanted to. I was caught too off-guard. Having a gun would not have helped me in any of those situations.

              It’s a “I am very badass!”-solution often from folks that have never been in that vulnerable kind of position before, because if they have, they would know that it cannot be reliably executed.

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            Never threaten with a firearm, either use it or don’t.

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          Isn’t this what gun rights people say to women who then become statistically more likely to be shot by their own weapon?

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        It’s clear the sentiment on guns is never going to change in the US. I don’t live in an ideal gun-free utopia. I live in the US that exists now.

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        When we were living in the high desert of california our friend would meet up at mcDs to let our kids play together. we were minding our own fucking business when a white stranger who asked our white friend if he was “okay”. As in was he ok with hanging out with us asians. This was before covid, only 70miles out of DTLA.

        We don’t live there anymore thank god. Many are not fortunate enough to move away from this kind of hostile environment. How in the fuck can you say that for them to get a gun to defend themselves is irrational and insane?

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            This is not about getting shot or not this is about marginalized people defending themselves from a society that wants them dead. Plenty of trans folks fear for their lives without one bullet being shot so your logic fails.

            If they do want to arm themselves, who I am to tell them that’s irrational. I’m not trans. I don’t know what their life is like.

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    She was attacked and defended herself so she got arrested and her attackers got off completely free. That’s some peak school zero tolerance policy bullshit. It’s also completely insane she has a 500k bail but Trump, who tried to overturn and destroy our democracy so that he could establish a dictatorship only has 200k. This singular case should be provided when people disagree that Trans people are being attacked and persecuted all across the country.

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    It felt like there wasn’t any context to the actual circumstances of her arrest, especially considering the exorbitantly high bail amount. I looked around and the most information I could actually find was through a motion filed by her attorney.

    She is being held for aggravated assault x2 along with some other misdemeanor charges with an implication that the charges will be elevated to attempted murder. Her attorney also notes that she has numerous other felony charges over the years, many but not all of which were later plead down to misdemeanor charges. Epona is also noted as homeless and transient that had outstanding warrants for failing to appear for some of her charges in other states. She has outstanding warrants for this in at least one other state. Assuming that it is true that she is transient and the DA intends to upgrade her charges to attempted murder, this at least provides some idea as to why the bail amount seems ludicrously high on the surface.

    I realize that virtually all trans individuals face an extremely unwelcoming response from society that can often include abject violence and I feel true empathy for those that carry that burden. In this particular case it seems that there are lots of details that may deviate from the narrative that this particular individual was simply attacked by a group of men while minding her own business. Perhaps I’m wrong, but the original link is very one-sided which is why I went looking for more information. There are no journalistic articles covering the attack, but the motion filed by Epona’s lawyer is moderately revealing.

    https://www.lookoutphx.org/blog/flagstaff-trans-woman-attacked-facing-felony-charges/