• RaskolnikovsAxe@lemmy.ca
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    8 hours ago

    F35 is far more expensive to operate, so you end up paying more over the lifetime if you actually use it.

    Of course the other aircraft don’t have a bunch of fancy features of the F35, but maybe we don’t need them, particularly in light of the US hostility and unpredictability. And the benefit of building our own is a factor as well.

    As I undertand it, the F35 has only about 55% readiness and suffers SW problems as well.

    The US is not the only game in town, and we need to be clear about that.

    • NIB@lemmy.world
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      5 hours ago

      It is a little princessy(what stealth aircraft isnt) but it doesnt cost that much to run. It only requires specialized facilities.

      F-35 readiness is on par with other comparable planes and will only get better (superior to other fighters) the more infrastructure is built. You would be shocked if you saw the readiness levels of other planes but that doesnt sell.

      It is important to note that much of the bad reputation of the f-35 is because

      1. Outdated data from early development of the plane. The F-16(or any plane), the (currently) cheap, reliable and available workhorse had an even worse start.
      2. Because there is free press in the West, you hear about everything that goes wrong. This is not the case for planes from authoritarian countries.
      3. A lot of the misinformation comes and/or is amplified literally from enemy state propaganda.
      4. A lot of the issues of the F-35 are about the vertical takeoff variant(F-35B). Or about a new updated version(block) of the F-35 that is still in testing.
      5. “F-35 bad” is(though less so nowadays) an internet meme. I am still waiting for the internet to explain how this terrible fighter can do 20 to 1 kill ratio vs non stealth planes in exercises.

      Ask yourself why is the F-35 the best selling fighter. Why is noone buying F-15, F-18 or F-16. Those planes still sell but on much more limited quantities and mostly because F-35 production cant catch up with demand(or because not all american allies are allowed to buy the F-35).

      Now obviously if America is hostile to Europe, shit is gonna get really weird. While the Rafale and Gripen are capable planes, they cannot replace the F-35.

      Look what is happening in Ukraine. The air space is extremely hostile to non stealth planes. This is the kind of environment that the F-35 can fight in, though ideally you want B2 to bomb most antiair defenses. Non stealth aircraft can fight too but it is infinitely risker and with significantly reduced capabilities.

      The F-35 is the start of a new doctrine(for non american airforces), not just a plane.