Denver fairly recently decriminalized mushrooms and I got a grow kit on a whim.

I’m now sitting on a bunch of mushrooms and I don’t know what to do. I’ve got info on microdosing, but I don’t know anything else. The last time I had shrooms was at a concert probably 20 years ago and it was just a bag. Given the increased potency of marijuana I’m reluctant to do anything with them. Any guidance would be appreciated!

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    Try 0.2 grams dried, then you’ll feel more comfortable trying more. Maybe 0.5 next time and go from there

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        A resounding yes! Raw mushrooms will rot fairly quick so dry them cracker dry, get some mason jars and a few desiccant packs and they will last a long time in a space that is dark and at standard room temperature. The breakdown temperature of psilocybin is actually quite extreme and a dehydrator ain’t going to reach those temperatures.

        There are actually two (but technically the same) main psychoactive compounds in raw mushrooms: psilocin and psilocybin. When you injest shrooms, our body will break down psilocybin into psilocin which then can pass through the blood-brain barrier and cause a trip. I have read that raw psilocin in the shrooms themselves is more unstable and does not store very well. Psilocybin is much more stable.

        Since you intend to use them medicinally, you will need to account for the inconsistency of the psilocybin content. It can vary from mushroom to mushroom and flush to flush quite a bit. So: Dry them all, grind them all into a powder, mix well and then experiment with different dosages with that powdered blend. Once you find a dose that works for you, consider loading up a bunch of gel caps that you can buy off of Amazon.

        Oh, almost forgot: Psilocybin tolerance is very real and it develops extremely quick. If you end up tripping off of a dose, you likely will not trip again off the same dose the next day. Doubling up the dose is about the only way to trip again but it is extremely wasteful. (I tried once. I ate 5g dried one day and basically gave up after +10g dried the next day. Sure, I had a mild trip on day two, but like I said, wasteful. I wait a week or two now between trips. I took a short trip to the outer planets last weekend, so I am likely going to pass this weekend.)

        If you end up feeling too much of what you want for a medicinal dose, wait a week or so before experimenting again so you can get more of an accurate feel. Once you saturate your 5HT2A receptors, they will absolutely nope-out for a few days. Many sources will say that microdoses do not cause such an extreme tolerance, for whatever reason.

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        It’ll be incredibly difficult to properly dose them if not dry.

        Today that full shroom is 10g, tomorrow it’s 9.5, the next it’s 8.

        Once they are dry it’ll be more consistent.

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        Yes. If you are not planning on consuming them fresh, drying them is the best way to go. There are different methods to choose from, but I would avoid any process that uses heat, which can damage the alkaloids. If you don’t have a dehydrator, you can get a decent little unit for $40-$50 on Amazon.

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    So if some are growing faster than others, should I let them linger, or should I dehydrate them? growing faster

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      If you have already harvested them and don’t plan on eating them fresh, then you should dehydrate them. If they are still on the substrate, it’s okay to harvest the fruits individually. It’s important to dry them as immediately as possible in order to preserve the psilocin.

      Edit: I just saw your picture. The fruit in the back is ready for harvest, as its veil has broken. The rest are still not quite mature. When you do decide to harvest any of the fruits, make sure to use a flame sterilized scalpel/blade and cut as close to the substrate as possible.

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        They’re still in a sterile bag. Haven’t touched them at all. I’m thinking to just let them bloom and then harvest, but that one on the side is big…

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          That’s a fair approach. I get not wanting to mess with success. If you want to continue growing in the future, consider investing in an SGFC or monotub setup. Both are inexpensive and will allow you to achieve much higher yields.

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            I’m less interested in more yield at this point. If I eat the cap of the most mature spore is that too much?

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              I can’t give you a direct answer there. Psilocin distribution is not entirely consistent. As another user stated, drying makes predicting the potency more of a possibility.

              ETA: The spores are what the mushroom releases. You will likely see a dark stain form beneath that mushroom. That stain will be comprised of thousands of spores. The part that you consume is the mushroom itself.

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                Addendum: Some modern strains don’t drop spores easily. PE-type strains that I have been growing are like this. You gotta do some digging up in them gills with a qtip if you want to attempt to collect any spores if there are any to collect at all.

                This varies from strain to strain, of course. For example, the veils break super early on Mac Galactic even though they have a long way to grow. The “feels like a marshmallow” test can be better in cases like this.

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                  Thanks for the info. I’ve never heard that about PE, but that makes sense given their morphology. Admittedly I have only ever grown more vanilla cubes, so I wouldn’t have much knowledge there… The early veils are another new one for me. I agree that test would be more appropriate there.

                  It’s always cool to learn from someone with more information. Thanks for enlightening me.